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you're in the paracast

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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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and now

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here's gene steinberg

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with gene and chris on the power cast

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we've got an extraordinary show for you

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this week

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and last week we had a lot of fun with

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linda godfrey

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after a couple of episodes where some of

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our listeners were a little up in arms

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over a few of the things that went on

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this time she got quite a bit of

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favorable comment not that we're

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politically correct we don't know when

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we do these shows whether listeners will

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like us or not

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and after over ten and a half years i'm

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glad most of the time they like what we

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do but linda really is a level-headed

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person and really dedicated to getting

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her information down correctly

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so we had a lot of fun and learned a few

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things about chris and his experiences i

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just wanted to hit you with something

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chris a statistic

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that

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somebody threw and i don't necessarily

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believe it

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but as you know

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doing this show and doing the tech night

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out live i get lots and lots of press

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now we know that chris is what we call a

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cord cutter

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you gave up satellite you threw the

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out on the street or something right

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off a cliff off a cliff and they sent

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him a bill by the way which one i just

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didn't get my deposit back oh that was

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it was a dish or a directv

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i think it was dish

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ah okay oh by the way if you're

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interested again

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because you're part of my mobile account

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for at t you can get a discount on

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directv

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i i think he's going to throw something

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at me

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but i got this press release

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just the other day

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and i'll read you the headline

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how binge tv watching raises the risk of

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a clot

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by 70 percent

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chris do you binge watch

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what kind of clot a brain clot it says

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clot it doesn't say what kind of clot a

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blood clot

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oh here it is

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they have found that adults who spent at

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least five hours or more in front of a

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tv a day

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and obviously it's not just court

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cutters

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we're two and a half times more likely

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to die from a blood clot in the lungs

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you hear that chris

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well i don't watch five hours of tv in a

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row so

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when i binge watch i try to hold it at

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four episodes if i'm really into it

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usually it's only a couple

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that's about what i could handle

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although i remember the times like years

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ago they used to have these videotapes

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of old movie cereals like from the 40s

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like captain marvel and superman and i'd

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watch five or ten chapters

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but i'm still here and i think my lungs

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are okay but we'll take that the thing

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is here is that you have these pr people

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or course or something so they come up

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spectacular

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or outrageous set of statistics it may

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if you sit in one place

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for five or six hours a day

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and you don't do any exercise

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that might make a difference but this

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came across as being

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a little over the edge

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how about all these people that do

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you know flights back and forth across

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they're sitting there for 10 11 hours

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and i i know in the past that they have

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some studies that show that it does

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raise your susceptibility to to getting

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blood clots in your legs especially

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people should be dropping like flies

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and zoned out in front of netflix or

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amazon prime or something well if you're

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not moving now i understand if you get

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activity you move around a little bit

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i think that's one way to avoid this

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sort of thing but that really is not an

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argument in favor of or against tv binge

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we do a basically a two-hour session for

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a show that ends up being three hours

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being sent out by the radio stations

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but i'm not sitting here for two hours

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there'll be times when i just get up and

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will do that every hour it's going to

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ping your wrist or something with haptic

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to get up and exercise

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so i hope that when you listen to the

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whether it's two and a half hours three

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which is just shy of two hours

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stop and get up

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i guess if you're driving you can't do

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that yes you can

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you could go to a rest stop get out for

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a few minutes hey we just told people

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not to listen to the show straight

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is that politically incorrect chris

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no you should definitely have a buzz on

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well i don't know if i want to do it

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with an apple watch and spend 300 for an

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apple watch i have a great watch here

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it's 12

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and 88 cents from right over your head

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definitely need a buzz on well i in the

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well that was a conversation stopper

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this is going to be a lot of fun

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conversations stopping for fun and

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profit today we yeah yours

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well look i can stop a conversation with

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something like that

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the head

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official title making it up

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d'antonio

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and also he's an astronomer by the way

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daily with possible m-type or goldilocks

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that may be capable of harboring

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life and maybe life as we know it

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and i think the technology behind that's

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it's not like you're looking at a

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telescope

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it's not like you're looking into a

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it's inferring the existence by how

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these worlds impact the star systems and

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everything else it's interesting

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technology we'll talk about it

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and we'll talk about in by the fact that

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every few days i get this facebook post

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from somebody

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where they invite me to hear the

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channeled beings from zeta reticuli do

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no uh i'm pretty effective at weeding

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but i have a few sort of litmus uh

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i hold my nose when i read their posts

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but i like to at least keep my finger on

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the pulse of the woowoo tribe um

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but for the most part no i don't i don't

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get those well this one i have fun

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every time i see this it's like every

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i post a response zeta reticuli is a

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binary star system

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and there's no evidence of any extra

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solar planets orbiting them

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but if you want to go and hear someone

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who claims to be in touch with beings

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they're star beings they live in the

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yeah okay

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that sounds like fun yeah they have

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molten personalities

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all this heated discussion

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so basically these are liquid creatures

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then these are the liquid creatures from

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okay does that mean that

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as they're being channeled they pour all

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over the place

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i don't know when they come here they

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gush

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they just love it here

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i think their logic is all wet

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the poor lady who's putting this up i'm

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sure she is very sincere about this

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nonsense

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and if someone wants to believe in

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nonsense go right ahead

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be my guest

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yeah it's it's still a fairly semi-free

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that may change in the next election but

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i don't want to get into politics

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because they'll be screaming at us well

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he said something against that guy

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i don't know i know somebody who was

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gene no no uh no t word but one of my

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regular guests on the tech night now

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live was born just a couple of blocks

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away in queens

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from the person who is best described by

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the t word

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mark d'antonio joins us this week in the

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powercast

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and of course we know about all the

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great work he does for mufon in terms of

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video and photo analysis and such but

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we're going to talk about the fact that

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he's also an astronomer

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and

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interested as all of us are in

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exoplanets being planets that orbit

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other star systems

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so especially in a week here where a new

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star trek movie is out star trek beyond

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we think about this but as i was saying

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to our listeners before when it comes to

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exoplanets we're not always seeing them

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directly aren't we we're seeing

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their impact or effect thanks for having

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me on the show

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i uh i love being here thank you um when

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we actually see a planet quote-unquote

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around another star

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we have to qualify that we don't see the

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planet directly

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as you said we actually see it in terms

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of what it does to the starlight in one

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case like when we are looking for a

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planet that is perhaps

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15 to 50 times smaller

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than the star

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going in front of the star is seen from

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the earth

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the slight drop in light that we see

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we call that the light curve a slight

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drop of light in the light curve of that

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star

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is an indicator that something is

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causing the star's light to dim now that

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doesn't have to be a planet

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it could actually be a

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um

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sunspot on the star a star spot on the

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star like we have sunspots on our sun

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those spots

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could reduce the starlight

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quite significantly

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if there's enough of them and then

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depending on the type of star it might

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very well be peppered with spots

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so the lucky thing for us is that these

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star spots don't last forever they only

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last for

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perhaps a month or a few weeks sometimes

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and they change constantly that said

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the next time the star rotates around if

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it was a star spot we'd see perhaps this

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spot again or we might see a change in

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the starlight

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and

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if it comes back

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very quickly

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then we have a problem because that is

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to say if we see this dimming very

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quickly in a like a a period is very

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quick like a matter of days and

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sometimes hours

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then

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the problem we have is that we're going

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to be seeing this dimming and think well

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that could be a planet or a spot

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and the only way to tell that it's a

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planet is to see the long-term

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period that is the cycle around the the

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orbit of that planet around the star

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to see if that long-term cycle is

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repeating like clockwork if it is then

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we know it's not a spot that's why some

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of these candidates for planetary

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discovery

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are

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or have been discovered perhaps two or

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three or four years ago

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and now it's taking all this time to

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reconfirm them usually if a planet is

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closer to its star it goes around the

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star

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fairly quickly sometimes uh you know 100

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days you know 50 days three days a day

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half a day you know we see all manner of

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periods around stars

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now the inner planets to a star are also

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the more likely planets that are going

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to be in the habitable zone that is the

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place around the star where the the

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temperature on a planet

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will not be too hot or too cold to

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support liquid water

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if

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it has a surface it might be a giant

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planet we've found a lot of

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jupiter-sized planets orbiting in the

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habitable zones of their stars or close

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to it

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so it's a confusing science it's an

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infant science but we're making some

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great progress and we're actually you

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know there's over 3 300

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confirmed planets and of those

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265 of them

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are actually in the star's habitable

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zone

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so that's pretty impressive when you

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think about it so it's like having 265

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potential earths

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it's like having a potential of having

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well okay i won't say earth's because

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we do see gas giants in the habitable

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zone as well

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something we're not used to seeing

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because in our solar system we don't

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have gas giants in our habitable zone we

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have rocky planets we call those

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terrestrial planets as you know and and

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these rocky planets

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sit in that not too hot not too cold

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spot you know that goldilocks zone of

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the habitable zone around the star

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so i don't want to say

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uh 265 potential earths

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i want to say 265 planets that are known

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to be in the habitable zone

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some of which

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are super earths

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and these are planets that are uh larger

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than our earth

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and they're not

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um necessarily

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they're not necessarily in the uh

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size ranges our planet but or the mass

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range but you know i think it's

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something

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that is very important for us to look at

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and to study and we'll have better we'll

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have better understanding of that as we

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move forward now the the best thing for

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us is to be able to look at the

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atmospheres if there's any of such

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planets

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because i think the atmosphere is what's

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going to give away

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an alien civilization to us

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as seen from a distance

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before we go on we're getting into a a

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wide area here looking at atmosphere we

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are i'm trying very hard to keep it you

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know

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astronomers

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but looking at

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the atmosphere how do we do that we're

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seeing the impact of something

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to infer the existence of a planet and

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it appears to be one how do we look

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at the potential

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atmospheric makeup of it what's the

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secret

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spectrum now

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when we look at our sun

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the

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color but you know from you know your

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grade school and from college and uh

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beyond that the light of the sun can be

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broken up into a spectrum a prism of red

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orange yellow green blue indigo and

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violet colors that's the visible

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spectrum that we see

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and within that visible spectrum from

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the sun

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we see

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these dark lines

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which are called fraunhofer lines

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they're the fraunhofer spectrum now

548
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what are those those are

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the telltale signatures of other

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elements in our star's atmosphere

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and it's called they're called

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absorption lines an absorption line

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is what you will see

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in a stars spectrum

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if you have a cooler gas on the outside

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of the sun

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in front of a hotter gas on the inside

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of the sun and as that

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cooler gas

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as the the hot uh gas from inside a hot

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radiation coming from the inside of the

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sun that light passes through that

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cooler gas the cooler gas can absorb

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some of that

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and those are absorption lines and those

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absorption lines

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are what we see and so we're going to

568
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:55,520
look for

569
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what we're calling a contamination

570
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,320
in the spectrum of a star

571
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:02,640
you know 60 light years away

572
00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:05,200
from a planet we can't even see

573
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:07,520
so if we can see

574
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:10,000
an eventual contamination

575
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:13,520
in that stars spectrum then we will have

576
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,520
found you know we'll be able to see the

577
00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:17,360
elements in that atmosphere of that

578
00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:19,280
planet because the atmosphere of the

579
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planet will cause these very minuscule

580
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:24,080
absorptions

581
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:26,720
and you'll see a potential set of

582
00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:28,799
absorption lines we'll get into more of

583
00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:31,120
this explain more of it and how we can

584
00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:33,760
determine the atmospheric makeup

585
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:36,880
of an exosolar planet and maybe

586
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this will help us find out where e.t may

587
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be found maybe not that far but it's

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oh well we are exploring the final

690
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frontier

691
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,200
exoplanets with marked antonio let's

692
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:25,440
talk more about the atmospheric makeup

693
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:27,919
here so we could look at this and maybe

694
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:28,799
get a

695
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,960
rough idea that this particular

696
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,480
exoplanet

697
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:34,720
has an atmospheric makeup that's similar

698
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:36,720
enough to us

699
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:39,039
to possibly be a source of life

700
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:40,480
that's right and

701
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,200
that technology to do that

702
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,440
uh with every planet we find is still

703
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:47,360
not quite here however

704
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,600
with some of the larger planets

705
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:51,840
astronomers have been able to determine

706
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:54,399
the atmospheric makeup already of some

707
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:56,000
planets they found a planet out there

708
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:56,799
that

709
00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:59,200
for instance has a lot of oxygen

710
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,880
molecules in its atmosphere and i know

711
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:02,559
that sounds wow hey that's life

712
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:04,640
potentially but it's actually a hot

713
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:06,960
jupiter and it's very close to its star

714
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:09,039
in fact it's so close to the star

715
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:11,440
that one side of the planet

716
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,279
is always facing the star because it's

717
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:15,520
tidally locked

718
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:16,880
like the moon is to the earth you always

719
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:19,039
see the same face of the moon and so the

720
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:21,279
planet rotates once around

721
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:23,600
as it goes around the sun once so it's

722
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:25,760
star once so for every revolution around

723
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:27,760
the star it turns around once and that's

724
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:31,039
the locked mechanism that happens and

725
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:31,919
that

726
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:34,399
planet in particular

727
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:35,679
we've also been able to map the

728
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:37,760
atmosphere believe it or not of this

729
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:40,159
planet that was that's you know dozens

730
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:42,240
of light years away and you say well how

731
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:44,320
could you possibly do that you can do

732
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:47,279
that again by looking at the spectrum

733
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,840
and by examining the the minuscule

734
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:51,440
details in the spectrum now you know

735
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what you need you need an etc

736
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:55,840
and that's where we're heading with with

737
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:58,080
this kind of research we have to get

738
00:29:02,470 --> 00:28:59,440
absolutely

739
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:02,480
fantastic phenomenal spectra from these

740
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:05,520
stars in order to be able to determine

741
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:07,840
the atmospheric makeup that's what

742
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,320
stopped us so far is that the kepler

743
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:13,279
telescope is great and and you know the

744
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:15,039
the other programs out there are are

745
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:18,240
fantastic for doing uh the studies

746
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:19,600
but we still

747
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:22,640
have a lack of ability to discern

748
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,360
the exact spectrum of the atmosphere of

749
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:27,840
the planet especially if it's a small

750
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,080
planet with a with a relatively

751
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:32,640
a modest atmosphere like our earth

752
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:33,679
so

753
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:36,399
the chances of finding the other earth

754
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:37,840
the real match

755
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:41,520
which is similar size similar atmosphere

756
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:43,840
even where we are now with

757
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,120
this science it's still pretty difficult

758
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,279
well yeah it is it's okay because you

759
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:51,200
have to consider you know if you want a

760
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,880
an analogy

761
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:54,559
consider that

762
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:57,440
alpha centauri is the closest star to us

763
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,480
okay and it's actually three stars and

764
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:02,080
you know there's an a and b component

765
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:03,840
and then there's a tiny little

766
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:06,880
red dwarf proxima but let's consider the

767
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,360
main star alpha centauri uh

768
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:11,760
and we'll call it alpha centauri a now

769
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,320
alpha centauri a is a star kind of like

770
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:16,159
the sun all right think of it as about

771
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:17,840
the same size about a million miles

772
00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:20,080
across maybe a little more a little less

773
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:22,159
and it's at a distance of only four

774
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:24,080
light years away now that means of

775
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:25,520
course that light takes four years to

776
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:27,360
get here from there but it's the closest

777
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:29,120
other star to us

778
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:30,080
say

779
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:32,720
and there is a possibility that it has a

780
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:34,000
planet or two

781
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:36,320
that are that is circling it or one of

782
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:37,760
its components

783
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,640
now

784
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:40,799
the disk of that star even though it's

785
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:43,279
the closest star to us the actual round

786
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:44,799
disk of the star

787
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:48,399
is not visible to us it's too small

788
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:49,360
but

789
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:51,200
you have to say well that that's an

790
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:53,360
amazing distance it's just a little tiny

791
00:30:57,750 --> 00:30:55,279
point of light we don't have a telescope

792
00:30:59,510 --> 00:30:57,760
that can make alpha centauri a a round

793
00:31:01,510 --> 00:30:59,520
disc

794
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:01,520
in in our view we just don't

795
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:05,760
so the planet is a round disc but but

796
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:08,559
you know 10 to 100 times smaller

797
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,960
than the star so how the heck can we

798
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:12,399
ever see that

799
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,399
okay an analogy is

800
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:16,159
if we had just just a disc of alpha

801
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:19,039
centauri if we had a quarter in our hand

802
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:20,640
and we wanted to move it away from the

803
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:22,880
camera as far as it needed to go so that

804
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:25,200
the disc of that quarter

805
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:27,440
would appear the same size

806
00:31:33,789 --> 00:31:31,360
as alpha centauri appears in our sky

807
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:33,799
we'd have to move that quarter

808
00:31:39,509 --> 00:31:37,760
765 miles away from the camera

809
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,519
so that kind of gives you an idea how

810
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:41,360
difficult it is to see the discs of the

811
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:42,480
stars

812
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:45,600
never mind the disc of a planet which is

813
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:47,519
obviously a lot smaller

814
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:51,440
so we have some science to work on yes

815
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:53,600
now i was mentioning this in the first

816
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:55,519
segment before you came on

817
00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:57,440
and that is there's appears to be this

818
00:32:02,230 --> 00:31:58,840
romantic

819
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:02,240
obsession with zeta reticuli and it

820
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:05,360
might be partly due to the star map

821
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:08,320
from the barney and betty hill case but

822
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:12,960
i'm getting these crazy invitations on

823
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:14,480
facebook

824
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:17,519
see the beings from zeta reticuli now i

825
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:20,000
recall zeta reticuli is a binary star

826
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,760
system correct

827
00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:23,120
um well

828
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:25,519
zeta reticuli is a uh

829
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:27,039
it's a it's a

830
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,399
g3

831
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:30,320
star i have to i would have to talk to

832
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,360
you about

833
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:33,679
uh spectral types to understand but

834
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:37,760
there's two that's a g3 and a g25 g25 is

835
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:39,039
what we are

836
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:41,600
now we have spectral

837
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:44,559
spectral type now the spectral class

838
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:47,600
of our star is a g the spectral type is

839
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:48,559
a g

840
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,600
two five now within the spectral class

841
00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:52,960
you have say

842
00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:54,159
uh g

843
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:56,559
zero through nine okay

844
00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:58,240
we're a g2 star

845
00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:00,159
now where does that fall and what does

846
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:02,880
the g mean well the hottest stars are o

847
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,000
type stars and the coolest stars are m

848
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:07,840
as in mic m

849
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:08,799
and

850
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:12,159
they go from o b a f g

851
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:13,840
k m

852
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:15,440
and there's a few other spectral types

853
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:16,799
mixed in there but

854
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:19,600
now for normal stars stars that

855
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:20,720
convert

856
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:23,360
hydrogen to helium like our sun

857
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:25,279
they have the roman numeral v you know

858
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,399
five

859
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:28,320
as their what's called a luminosity

860
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,519
class

861
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,760
all of the fives like that all of those

862
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:33,279
v stars

863
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:35,519
are on what's called a main sequence

864
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:36,559
and so

865
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:41,360
zeta reticuli is a g3 or g5

866
00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:42,159
v

867
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,760
a lot of ways chemically they probably

868
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:51,360
look about the same

869
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,080
and they only differ by a little bit

870
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:56,399
uh you know compared to the sun and

871
00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:58,000
they're both main sequence stars they're

872
00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:00,080
both doing the normal hydrogen to helium

873
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:01,840
burning so

874
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:04,880
zeta reticuli has been attractive and is

875
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:07,600
of course you know we we've seen it in

876
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:08,960
uh

877
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:10,800
you know science fiction we've also seen

878
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:13,760
it in extras of solar programs and

879
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:14,720
um

880
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,480
you know it it has

881
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:18,800
no known planets around it

882
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:21,760
um but there is a debris disk

883
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,280
right and that debris could be a solar

884
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:27,599
system in formation or

885
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:30,240
an outer asteroid belt that we

886
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:33,119
don't you know know

887
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:36,079
any more detail about uh and so there's

888
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:38,560
a lot going on in zeta reticuli but but

889
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:42,000
there are no known planets at this point

890
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:43,919
now just saying debris

891
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:45,599
should be where we can put that claim

892
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:47,679
about beings from zeta reticuli right

893
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,200
now

894
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,280
well i mean

895
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,839
let's let's we can always play into this

896
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:55,200
right we can always say well if they

897
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:56,480
don't want to be noticed and maybe

898
00:35:00,069 --> 00:34:57,920
they're hiding from us maybe they have a

899
00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:00,079
way to cloak their

900
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,160
their uh system or whatever you know

901
00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:05,119
this is where the romulans come from

902
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:07,520
no they come from romulus

903
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:09,280
which is a planet around another star

904
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:10,800
and i'd say they're reticuli i don't

905
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:12,880
know no they blew themselves up they

906
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:15,040
just you know they they they elected

907
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:17,040
some leader that uh created uh

908
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,960
catastrophic conditions politically and

909
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,920
boo

910
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:21,680
right the whole planet of the romulans

911
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:24,320
was destroyed according to star trek the

912
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,000
2009 reboot so it makes perfect sense

913
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,240
there you go so there's your debris disk

914
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:31,920
right

915
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:34,000
that's funny no but seriously speaking

916
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,040
here yeah we're seeing here

917
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:39,599
more and more evidence that life may not

918
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:41,839
be a rarity in fact in our own solar

919
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,520
system we're finding evidence of liquid

920
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:45,359
water which doesn't mean

921
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:46,400
there are

922
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:49,040
necessarily intelligent beings there but

923
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:51,040
if we see that life is something that's

924
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:52,640
plentiful

925
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,359
that raises the prospects

926
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:57,440
of intelligent civilizations being out

927
00:36:00,790 --> 00:36:00,000
there so let's look a little bit about

928
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:00,800
that

929
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,280
we have an intelligent civilization on

930
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,359
whatever planet we choose

931
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:08,160
and now they want to travel

932
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:09,839
light years away

933
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:12,800
so do they use warp drive is there can

934
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:15,440
there be such a thing theoretically

935
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:17,280
as a warp drive

936
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:19,280
well you know 30 years ago we would have

937
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:20,880
laughed at it and said hahaha it's star

938
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:25,200
trek until 1995 when miguel alcubierre

939
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:27,440
came up with what's called the alcabiri

940
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,560
tensor

941
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:30,720
it's a a design

942
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:33,599
if you will for a warp drive now

943
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:35,040
let's go into that in the next segment

944
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:38,240
this is fascinating mark d'antonio who

945
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:39,119
does

946
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:42,240
research with mufon on photos and videos

947
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:45,040
and is an astronomer and we're kind of

948
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:48,079
here picking his mind on astronomy and

949
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:50,480
what about warp drive with gene and

950
00:37:03,950 --> 00:37:03,109
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1054
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to the paracast

1055
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:36,710
oh i just love doing that okay

1056
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,079
mark d'antonio warp drive so isn't it

1057
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:41,760
interesting here how

1058
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:43,920
all these crazy inventions

1059
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:46,480
that we saw in star trek in the 60s

1060
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:49,520
from communicators which are now mobile

1061
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:50,640
phones

1062
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:53,839
two and star trek next generation these

1063
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:55,760
portable tablets they ran around with

1064
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,040
which inspired literally the ipad

1065
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:00,960
so now we have warp drive people looking

1066
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:03,040
at the science of star trek and coming

1067
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,480
up with something so tell us what do we

1068
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:06,000
know about warp drive

1069
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,359
well first of all let me just go back to

1070
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:09,680
that ipad thing for you for a second the

1071
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:12,480
actual inventor of the ipad is none

1072
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:15,040
other than douglas trumbull now i work

1073
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:17,040
with doug and i'm not just doing that as

1074
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:19,440
a shout out okay doug trumbull is an

1075
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,200
academy award-winning visual effects guy

1076
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:23,839
and he did 2001 a space odyssey

1077
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:26,480
and he had cara delaia you know the

1078
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:28,319
actor who was on

1079
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:31,200
the discovery in that movie i'm sorry

1080
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:32,560
dave

1081
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:36,960
can't do that well

1082
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,079
he actually had them using little pads

1083
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:41,920
that he created in his mind to say well

1084
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,400
i'm gonna i can foresee someday

1085
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:46,079
little tool pads that people will be

1086
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,520
able to run around with and pump you

1087
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:49,839
know touch and and get all these data

1088
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:52,240
uh you know off of and work with and so

1089
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:55,520
he had envisioned that way back in 1968

1090
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:56,640
so

1091
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:00,800
to be and i'll leave it at that you know

1092
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:03,200
it may not be doug but i choose to think

1093
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:05,280
that you know it was too obvious not to

1094
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:06,880
have been an influence

1095
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,960
yeah you want a computer system

1096
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:10,800
you want something that's portable you

1097
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,560
can carry around with you

1098
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:14,640
that contains a lot of information has

1099
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:17,200
easy access to that information so it's

1100
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:19,839
a certainly a logical device to create

1101
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,640
yeah it sure is and so when we when we

1102
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:24,400
all watched uh star trek when star trek

1103
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,720
came out in the 60s actually the first

1104
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:28,560
series you know the tos the original

1105
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:29,440
series

1106
00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:31,040
you know those of us who like science

1107
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,520
fiction you know we love watching kirk

1108
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:35,680
talk about planets and aliens you know

1109
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,480
and we why do you say that

1110
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:40,319
right that's the one thing by the way in

1111
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:42,640
chris pine's performance

1112
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:45,520
of captain kirk he makes no effort

1113
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:48,319
to duplicate shatner's rather staccato

1114
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:50,000
delivery there

1115
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:51,760
thank heavens

1116
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:54,480
yeah i think shatner is uh in his older

1117
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:56,160
years he's made more fun of himself and

1118
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:57,359
he's actually

1119
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,480
become a very funny guy overall but

1120
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:02,000
sticking to the topic of the warp drive

1121
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:03,119
for a sec

1122
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:06,160
that concept was always science fiction

1123
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:07,520
because

1124
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:10,640
the possibility although it existed

1125
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,000
it required so much energy to be able to

1126
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:16,720
generate what's called a warp bubble

1127
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:19,040
and it requires negative energy it

1128
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,240
requires

1129
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,800
all the things we don't know and all the

1130
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:25,200
things we have no clue about but captain

1131
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,680
can't we get dilithium crystals

1132
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,000
yes if there was a dilithium you know

1133
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:32,800
mine and there was dilithium

1134
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,839
then we could use that but the warp

1135
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:37,920
drive is an interesting concept think of

1136
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,319
it this way you're in a ship and you

1137
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:42,800
have a warp core something you can

1138
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:45,200
generate a warp bubble around your ship

1139
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:46,480
that bubble

1140
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:49,040
basically separates you from

1141
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:50,640
regular space

1142
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:53,200
all right and just live with that for

1143
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:54,079
now

1144
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:54,800
and

1145
00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:57,040
the best thing you can do in the warp

1146
00:45:01,589 --> 00:44:57,920
bubble

1147
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:01,599
is you can pull the universe past you as

1148
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,760
fast as you can now you're sitting still

1149
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:08,000
you're not violating the speed of light

1150
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:09,520
speed limit for

1151
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:12,000
corporeal physical objects in our

1152
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:13,119
universe

1153
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:15,440
in our four dimensions of x y and z all

1154
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:19,040
moving through time you aren't violating

1155
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:21,520
any of those physics you're violating

1156
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,400
nothing

1157
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:24,800
by pulling the universe past you

1158
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,040
it turns out you can do that as fast as

1159
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,200
you can possibly muster which means you

1160
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:31,520
can go many times the speed of light you

1161
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:32,640
can actually

1162
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:34,960
reduce the trip to alpha centauri with a

1163
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:36,560
theoretical ship

1164
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:37,520
from

1165
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,000
19 000 years as it would take with our

1166
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,920
latest and greatest rocket systems we

1167
00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:43,119
have now

1168
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:44,839
to five days

1169
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:47,040
now that's the

1170
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:50,800
of the actual alcabery metric that he

1171
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:52,480
created now

1172
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,880
that whole process

1173
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:57,200
however to create the warp bubble

1174
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:59,359
originally when al kabir created his

1175
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:01,920
ship it had a ring around it like the

1176
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,800
vulcan ship did in star trek and the

1177
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:06,880
science actually was not lost on

1178
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:08,400
roddenberry okay

1179
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:09,359
although

1180
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,920
el cuberi came along far later

1181
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:13,599
there was science earlier that talked

1182
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,040
about warp drive and what might be

1183
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:17,920
involved so the actual ring that's

1184
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,680
created to generate the warp bubble on

1185
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:21,040
this ship

1186
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,640
required the amount of energy that was

1187
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:24,640
the equivalent of converting the planet

1188
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:28,560
jupiter to energy all of its mass that

1189
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:29,520
was

1190
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:32,400
absolutely stupendously

1191
00:46:36,870 --> 00:46:35,359
impossible and remains so and probably

1192
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:36,880
would remain so

1193
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:39,760
for a civilization thousands of years in

1194
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:41,359
advance of ours

1195
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,280
so enter a team of speculating

1196
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:47,680
scientists who decided to take on the el

1197
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,640
caberry drive around six years ago or so

1198
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:52,560
they altered the ring

1199
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:54,880
of that alcubery drive

1200
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:57,520
that miguel valkyrie had come up with

1201
00:47:01,670 --> 00:47:00,000
and they came up with a new design

1202
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:01,680
that new design

1203
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:05,119
used far less energy so much so it was

1204
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:08,640
10 to the 23rd less energy and in fact

1205
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:11,760
it reduced the amount of mass

1206
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:13,920
energy you know the the mass equivalence

1207
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:16,960
down from the planet jupiter

1208
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:19,920
to the size of the voyager spacecraft

1209
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:22,720
and it made now it's still

1210
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,359
impossibly difficult to imagine

1211
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,319
converting all of that mass to energy we

1212
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:30,079
think of when we convert mass to energy

1213
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:31,680
we just think about throw coal on the

1214
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:33,200
fire and it burns

1215
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,400
that's the most primitive way to

1216
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:36,480
generate energy there ever was

1217
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:37,760
you know you've heard i think it was

1218
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:39,920
michio kaku who said you know to get

1219
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:41,440
energy on earth we still burn dead

1220
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:43,680
things you know that that's how we

1221
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:46,240
attain our energy and so the alcaburi

1222
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,160
drive on the other hand

1223
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:50,000
would use only the massive say the

1224
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:52,160
voyager spacecraft but you still have to

1225
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:54,079
make that warp bubble and the warp

1226
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:55,680
bubble still has to remain intact and

1227
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,119
you still have to be able to have the

1228
00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:59,599
ability to pull the universe past you

1229
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:01,200
you're sitting still

1230
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:04,079
the idea is that you're extending the

1231
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:06,160
distance between you and where you

1232
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:07,200
started

1233
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:09,119
and shortening the distance

1234
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:10,400
between you

1235
00:48:12,550 --> 00:48:11,839
and where you're going

1236
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,560
so

1237
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:14,400
you extend the distance from earth to

1238
00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:16,400
your ship and you shorten the distance

1239
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:18,560
from alpha centauri to your ship

1240
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,720
that's the overall

1241
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,839
process

1242
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,240
so it makes

1243
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:26,240
is interstellar travel

1244
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:30,000
more possible now and that warp drive

1245
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:31,599
sounds like the answer to everything

1246
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:32,800
right

1247
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:36,079
except it's not even close to what can

1248
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:38,079
get us to the far reaches of the

1249
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:40,880
universe or to the farther stars even in

1250
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:42,400
our own galaxy

1251
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:45,359
it would still take a lifetime to travel

1252
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:48,160
to the farther stars in our galaxy it's

1253
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:51,680
not enough it's not remotely fast enough

1254
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,160
so you think wow we're sunk right

1255
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:55,920
but the answer is

1256
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:56,800
sitting

1257
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,839
deep within string theory now string

1258
00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:01,520
theory is

1259
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,920
a very esoteric subject that

1260
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,160
is very hard to digest there's nothing

1261
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:08,640
intuitive about string theory

1262
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:10,000
but

1263
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:13,520
understand that in string theory there

1264
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:16,400
are propulsion concepts that may allow

1265
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:17,119
us

1266
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:18,240
to

1267
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:20,480
leave our four dimensions x y z all

1268
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,240
moving through time as i said

1269
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:24,880
and travel in an in-between area called

1270
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,200
the bulk bulk

1271
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:29,599
and then drop back in anywhere we want

1272
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:32,000
like anywhere in the universe

1273
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:32,880
now

1274
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:34,480
once we're out into the bulk we're

1275
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:36,160
unconstrained by any of the physical

1276
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:38,720
limitations we have in our universe

1277
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:40,960
i know this sounds like science fiction

1278
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:44,240
but it's becoming more science plausible

1279
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,680
and i don't say science fact i see

1280
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:47,520
science plausible because

1281
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:49,200
we don't have the technology to do any

1282
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,079
of it but i'm saying it's plausible and

1283
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:54,079
that's the thing that is going to be

1284
00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:55,520
where we're going to go

1285
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:57,680
that's on our far horizon the alkaberry

1286
00:50:01,589 --> 00:49:59,440
drive is on a nearer horizon but it's

1287
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:01,599
still far away maybe three four hundred

1288
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,640
years

1289
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,400
and then perhaps

1290
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,480
the second horizon will come and we can

1291
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:08,800
do this inter-dimensional

1292
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,520
shift and shift out and shift in now

1293
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:13,119
when that happens

1294
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:15,040
if there is a

1295
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:18,160
an advanced race using such technology

1296
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:19,680
they're going to leave what doug and i

1297
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:22,000
doug trumbull and i call skid marks

1298
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:23,599
in our universe when they transition

1299
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:27,359
between that bulk outside space and the

1300
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:29,359
dimensional inside space in in our

1301
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:30,640
universe

1302
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:33,760
those skid marks will show up on sensors

1303
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:36,800
that we can have and place in the field

1304
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:39,200
and chris o'brien knows all about these

1305
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:41,680
because we've talked about it and

1306
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,839
the actual

1307
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:45,760
sensors will detect

1308
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:48,000
the radiations that might be emanated

1309
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:50,640
from a craft that might be using such

1310
00:50:53,829 --> 00:50:51,839
technology

1311
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:53,839
we're talking here of an advanced ufo

1312
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:54,880
detector

1313
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:57,040
that's correct it's called and we're

1314
00:51:01,030 --> 00:51:00,160
building it it's called euphotog ufo tog

1315
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:01,040
ii

1316
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,040
doug came up with the original euphotog

1317
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:04,960
system which was just you know it was a

1318
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:06,880
bunch of really cool telescopes mounted

1319
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:09,280
on very very fast hydraulic systems that

1320
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:11,359
could track objects in the sky

1321
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:12,800
and it worked great

1322
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:15,680
but as we talked about it's not

1323
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,880
good enough because we can only have one

1324
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:19,760
of those

1325
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:22,079
vehicles at a time you know even if we

1326
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:23,839
had 10 of them it's not nearly enough we

1327
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:26,319
need we need where do you park them

1328
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:27,920
right exactly that's the bigger problem

1329
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,800
right

1330
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:30,720
how can they access a mountaintop that's

1331
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:32,720
rugged i'll tell you what we're going to

1332
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:34,720
park something else for a moment and

1333
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:37,119
then we'll come back with mark d'antonio

1334
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:38,960
and gene and chris

1335
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:40,240
exploring

1336
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:41,920
the universe

1337
00:51:55,390 --> 00:51:54,069
thank you for listening to gcn

1338
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:55,400
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1339
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,240
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1340
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1341
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:02,559
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1342
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1343
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1344
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:07,520
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1345
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:10,000
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1346
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:12,559
about a beautiful woman pleading for his

1347
00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:14,960
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1348
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:16,000
space

1349
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:18,160
but the dreams turn out to be true and

1350
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,079
thrust him into a telepathic love affair

1351
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:22,800
with a woman whose far away planet is

1352
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:25,280
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1353
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1354
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1355
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1356
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1357
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1358
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1359
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:41,440
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1360
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:42,640
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1361
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1362
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1364
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1365
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1366
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1367
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:05,680
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1368
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1369
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1370
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1371
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1372
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,720
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1373
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1374
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1375
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1376
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1377
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:26,480
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1378
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,760
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1379
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:31,440
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1380
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,960
pumped to go to work because you get to

1381
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,880
talk about or work with or do the things

1382
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:36,880
that interest you the most is working

1383
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,960
playing and relaxing one and the same as

1384
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:40,559
long as you're working for someone else

1385
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:42,400
you'll never be living entirely true to

1386
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:44,640
yourself and your passion i'm pharmacist

1387
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:46,319
keith let me show you how you can work

1388
00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:48,240
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1389
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1390
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1391
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1392
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:10,470
welcome back to the paracast the gold

1393
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:14,079
standard of paranormal radio

1394
00:54:18,740 --> 00:54:15,359
and now

1395
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:18,750
here's jane steinberg

1396
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:24,790
i think chris just swallowed a dilithium

1397
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:27,839
crystal that's why it sounded like that

1398
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:30,319
all right so of course we're assuming

1399
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:31,280
right now

1400
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:32,000
that

1401
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:33,760
any such development could be hundreds

1402
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:36,079
of years away but we don't know you know

1403
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,280
it could be

1404
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:39,440
there's a zefran cochrane

1405
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:41,920
kind of guy out there who will 50 years

1406
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:44,240
from now when the world's about to end

1407
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:46,720
we'll invent this technology we don't

1408
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:49,760
know what we'd like how about ben rich

1409
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:51,680
making that very uh

1410
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:53,599
suggestive comment that we finally

1411
00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:56,000
figured out the equation or something

1412
00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:58,240
oh you mean uh like that we have the

1413
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,480
technology to send e.t home

1414
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:02,400
right well he said something about uh an

1415
00:55:06,790 --> 00:55:05,280
equation or a formula that

1416
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:06,800
that uh they've been scratching their

1417
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:09,440
heads over evidently for

1418
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:11,920
years and they finally made some sort of

1419
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:13,280
breakthrough

1420
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:16,400
yeah well it's all speculative and until

1421
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:17,920
it actually comes out

1422
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:19,520
you know there's nothing we can you know

1423
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:21,359
we can always speculate and that's it

1424
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:24,240
right um you know how we are we go we us

1425
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:26,079
guys we want facts

1426
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,920
you know we want we want data we can

1427
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:29,119
actually touch

1428
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:31,440
you know stuff we can work on show me

1429
00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:34,480
your data yeah now you know and speaking

1430
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:35,599
of the whole warp drive and the

1431
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:37,119
exoplanet stuff

1432
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:39,200
um i have a a

1433
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:40,960
a book that's uh i finished the

1434
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:42,720
illustrations for it and it's going to

1435
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:44,720
be coming out i have to i'm still

1436
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:46,640
figuring out whether i'm going to

1437
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:48,559
you know e publish it or hardcover

1438
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,319
publish it it's got over you know 90

1439
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:52,480
illustrations in it so it might be a

1440
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:53,760
candidate for e-publishing but it's

1441
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:55,920
called the populated universe

1442
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,799
and it it discusses i believe

1443
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:00,480
that the universe

1444
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:03,920
is really more conducive to life

1445
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:06,880
than not conducive to life we see the

1446
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:08,960
building blocks of life everywhere we

1447
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:10,720
look out there you know almost

1448
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,880
everywhere right we see them on europa

1449
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:14,160
we see them on

1450
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:18,960
out loud and we know

1451
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:21,359
that amino acids have been delivered to

1452
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:22,559
our planet

1453
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:24,799
via natural processes

1454
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,319
from comets striking the earth meteors

1455
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:30,880
striking the earth and then the earth

1456
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:33,440
itself generating amino acids so

1457
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:35,280
the earth generates the building blocks

1458
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:37,760
of life and the universe provides them

1459
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:39,359
with bombardments

1460
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:41,920
if it happened here it's happening there

1461
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:44,640
i go out on a limb to say that i'm not

1462
00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:46,400
you know just because i don't know for

1463
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:48,400
sure that it's happening out there

1464
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:49,920
i use our earth

1465
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:53,040
as a very obvious example

1466
00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:55,760
of what the universe is doing everywhere

1467
00:56:59,589 --> 00:56:57,839
it's creating this what we have all

1468
00:57:01,990 --> 00:56:59,599
around us it's creating

1469
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:02,000
this in the habitable zones maybe a tree

1470
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:04,240
is a universal thing that happens i

1471
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:05,200
don't know

1472
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:08,160
you know maybe a bipedal human type

1473
00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:10,559
character creature whatever is what

1474
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:13,200
happens everywhere i don't know it was

1475
00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:16,079
evolutionarily selected earth

1476
00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:19,119
because of several large extinctions

1477
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:20,799
that left holes

1478
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:22,799
through which other species could

1479
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:26,480
exploit all right so when that small

1480
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:28,960
vole climbed out of its hole after the

1481
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:31,599
asteroid impact you know 100 years later

1482
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:34,000
that vole went down another path and you

1483
00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:36,000
know that certainly changed it from what

1484
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,599
it might have been had the dinosaurs

1485
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:39,119
survived so

1486
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:41,040
certainly we have mass extinctions to

1487
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:43,359
thank for our exact

1488
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,760
existence you know but

1489
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:47,280
we don't know what we would have looked

1490
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:50,720
like if the dinosaurs had not extincted

1491
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:53,200
we don't even know that we would

1492
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:55,119
be here at all right

1493
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:57,680
so possibly our existence

1494
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:00,640
is a matter of happy and unhappy odds

1495
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,040
and the question would be would those

1496
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:05,440
circumstances be duplicated elsewhere in

1497
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:07,520
the universe what was so many possible

1498
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:10,400
options perhaps they are and perhaps

1499
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:12,240
more often than not even if there are

1500
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:14,160
only a few dozen highly advanced

1501
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:16,319
civilizations that could mean quite a

1502
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,119
lot

1503
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:19,440
yeah it does and the fact is

1504
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:21,200
that the the estimate is that there's

1505
00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,480
probably

1506
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:25,119
we're looking at a small tiny teensy

1507
00:58:29,109 --> 00:58:26,240
weensy

1508
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:29,119
itty-bitty don't say yellow dot anything

1509
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,079
okay an itty-bitty teeny-weeny you know

1510
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:34,720
sampling of planetary candidates that

1511
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:37,520
have become planets out there and

1512
00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:39,280
we don't know

1513
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:41,599
how many more are actually out there but

1514
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:44,000
we infer through statistical analysis

1515
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:46,160
that there's quite a lot

1516
00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:47,119
could be

1517
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:49,119
that there are perhaps

1518
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:51,280
up to 40

1519
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:52,559
billion

1520
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:55,040
other earth-like planets in our galaxy

1521
00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:55,920
alone

1522
00:59:02,470 --> 00:58:59,839
that's billion as in boy billion okay

1523
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:02,480
and boy that's a lot so

1524
00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:04,960
we have about 400 billion stars in our

1525
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:07,280
galaxy and maybe 10 of them

1526
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:10,240
uh you know actually are uh earth-like

1527
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:11,280
planets

1528
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:13,119
and this

1529
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:15,760
statistic is something that's coming out

1530
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:18,640
of the research so this possibility is

1531
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:19,440
that

1532
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:20,640
we may not have to look to other

1533
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:23,200
galaxies to find advanced life we might

1534
00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:24,319
have it

1535
00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:25,839
you know nearby

1536
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,079
near us i'm not saying the universe is

1537
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:30,559
totally teeming with life but i i'm

1538
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:32,880
erring on the side that says

1539
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:35,119
i think that it may very well be that's

1540
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:37,680
why i called it called the populated

1541
00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:40,000
universe i think that it's the life is

1542
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:43,119
the is the rule not the exception

1543
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:45,200
well that being the case that raises the

1544
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:48,000
odds for them being here at least

1545
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:50,079
yeah and that's that's the reason why i

1546
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,400
study unidentified flying objects and

1547
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:54,160
and why i'm working with doug and a team

1548
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:56,079
of scientists that we put together from

1549
00:59:59,829 --> 00:59:57,280
the lawrence livermore lab who are

1550
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:59,839
actually helping us create these these

1551
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:01,040
platters we're calling them to help

1552
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:02,400
detect this

1553
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,160
really interesting uh potential

1554
01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:06,319
radiation coming from

1555
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:08,480
uh you know far out in the you know in

1556
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:09,920
the atmosphere when something

1557
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,280
transitions

1558
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:13,520
out of a dimension from you know who

1559
01:00:18,549 --> 01:00:16,079
knows where to our dimension so there's

1560
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:18,559
a there's a lot going on

1561
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:20,799
and i think that uh we're heading down

1562
01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:23,440
the path of finally getting an answer to

1563
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:25,200
all that

1564
01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:28,400
why have we had no positive results

1565
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:30,079
except i think maybe in one case there

1566
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,680
was something ambiguous

1567
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:33,359
from seti

1568
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:35,040
are they looking at the wrong things and

1569
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:37,440
searching for some kind of transmission

1570
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:38,319
from

1571
01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:40,880
an intelligent race out there

1572
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:43,520
well you know i don't i don't i i used

1573
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:45,920
to be a sort of uh uh

1574
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:47,920
not a basher but i was sort of skeptical

1575
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:49,760
of studying in the beginning

1576
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,920
but i've come to realize that seti is

1577
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:53,119
actually

1578
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:56,079
doing a very important role

1579
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:58,880
and that role is that

1580
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:01,200
the neutral band of hydrogen

1581
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:04,240
is a potential exploitable path

1582
01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:05,839
that can be used

1583
01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:07,760
by an alien civilization

1584
01:01:13,349 --> 01:01:10,640
now an advanced civilization wouldn't

1585
01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:13,359
use it potentially because

1586
01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:16,079
it's too slow because the things that

1587
01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:16,880
leave

1588
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:19,839
and use the neutral band of hydrogen the

1589
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:21,599
21 centimeter band

1590
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:24,400
would actually take you know their time

1591
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:26,640
getting places that that means traveling

1592
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:27,839
at light speed

1593
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:30,160
all right it would take four years

1594
01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:32,240
for city to know if a signal was

1595
01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:34,880
transmitted from alpha centauri

1596
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:37,119
it would take thousands of years

1597
01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:39,680
for a signal to be intercepted you know

1598
01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:41,599
from the other end of the you know from

1599
01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:42,319
and

1600
01:01:45,670 --> 01:01:44,640
you know stars in our galaxy somewhere

1601
01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:45,680
so

1602
01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:48,000
it the bottom line is that seti's doing

1603
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:50,000
an important role because it's looking

1604
01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:53,040
to see if anyone locally locally

1605
01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:55,920
has exploited that communication regimen

1606
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:57,119
but

1607
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:58,880
it's not practical

1608
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:01,280
and i've always stuck to that it isn't

1609
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,119
practical because you can't establish

1610
01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:05,280
reliable two-way communication

1611
01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:06,559
you know if you get a message from an

1612
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:08,960
alien being i know 10 light years away

1613
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,760
hey how are you and you respond

1614
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:13,760
oh we're fine how are you nice to meet

1615
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:15,760
you you know 10 years later you might

1616
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:16,559
say

1617
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:18,240
who are you

1618
01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:19,920
you know

1619
01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:22,240
of course if they have rather

1620
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:24,799
a fast changeover of government leaders

1621
01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:25,599
and

1622
01:02:31,109 --> 01:02:28,960
various governing philosophies

1623
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:31,119
the sort of

1624
01:02:35,589 --> 01:02:33,440
people or creatures you reach may not be

1625
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:35,599
there anymore in the same capacity but

1626
01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:37,359
the other question is here

1627
01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:41,040
so much for galactic speed dating

1628
01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:43,520
there's that what about subspace if

1629
01:02:47,589 --> 01:02:44,960
we're going to have warp drive or at

1630
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:47,599
least find a way to theorize warp drive

1631
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:49,839
is something that could actually happen

1632
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:52,480
what does subspace radio mean to anyone

1633
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:54,160
is that like sending out the radio

1634
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:55,680
signals

1635
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:57,520
in a space warp

1636
01:03:02,950 --> 01:02:59,520
i haven't a clue

1637
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:02,960
you haven't the clue captain

1638
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:05,359
but i'm serious here would there be a

1639
01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:08,160
way to transmit what we consider radio

1640
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:10,400
waves in a way that

1641
01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:11,520
it's

1642
01:03:15,829 --> 01:03:13,760
separate from the normal speed of light

1643
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:15,839
well you know i mean when you talk about

1644
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:18,240
subspace communication you have to say

1645
01:03:23,190 --> 01:03:21,599
what does that mean what is sub space

1646
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:23,200
well obviously it was a quick plot

1647
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:25,680
device to explain how they can talk

1648
01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:27,760
to one another we realized that they

1649
01:03:31,349 --> 01:03:29,280
came up with things

1650
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:31,359
that were convenient just for example we

1651
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:33,920
have the matter transporter because it

1652
01:03:38,789 --> 01:03:36,720
was too expensive to show in star trek

1653
01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:38,799
spaceships constantly landing with

1654
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:40,400
primitive special effects in a low

1655
01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:43,039
budget but if you just have them wink in

1656
01:03:47,270 --> 01:03:44,960
and wink out and land somewhere else

1657
01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:47,280
that's fine we have marked antonio

1658
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:49,119
trying to figure this all out

1659
01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:51,200
and we are looking for those answers

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so obviously we understand that subspace

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radio was a plot device

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to make two-way communications possible

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01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:31,440
from immensely long distance but what

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about in the real universe

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i missed that can you repeat that

1773
01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:37,120
okay

1774
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:39,679
i apologize for that

1775
01:08:45,030 --> 01:08:42,480
that's okay i realize you humans are not

1776
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logical we humans are not logical

1777
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:46,960
exactly captain

1778
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so

1779
01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,600
tell us seriously

1780
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:51,520
obviously subspace radio is a plot

1781
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:52,799
device

1782
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:54,960
in the real universe

1783
01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:55,920
well

1784
01:09:00,390 --> 01:08:58,000
it might be a plot device you know i've

1785
01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:00,400
never investigated subspace type

1786
01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:02,400
communication to know whether it was

1787
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:04,640
drawn from any real science out there

1788
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:06,400
but i think it's interesting

1789
01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:08,960
because what it implies is that there is

1790
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:11,120
communication that can kind of defeat

1791
01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:13,679
the laws of the universe i can

1792
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imagine if we move into the future that

1793
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a possible ship could actually

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create

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a little

1796
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packet

1797
01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:25,040
housed in a warp bubble

1798
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that could go zipping through the

1799
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universe at much faster rate in fact

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maybe that's the way we're gonna

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01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:34,560
quote unquote invent warp drive maybe it

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won't be a physical

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object we move through space but maybe a

1804
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packet of information

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that we send out to some place like

1806
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maybe we'll bounce a signal off mars

1807
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in a quote unquote subspace packet

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moving at faster than light speed and

1809
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the signature coming back would bounce

1810
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back off of mars surface because some of

1811
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it will get back

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and that signal would then signify that

1813
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we've succeeded

1814
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in creating this technology and then it

1815
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would be a matter of moving up from

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there scaling it up to move corporeal

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things like you and me

1818
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at a

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warp drive that's a possibility well

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does that take us to

1821
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the philosophy of a matter

1822
01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:18,480
transporter

1823
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that would work

1824
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and transport human beings across space

1825
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not

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that's a stargate

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yeah you know what i think that the

1828
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thing that's interesting is that

1829
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scientists in geneva some years ago did

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manage to

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do a they were very careful not to call

1832
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it a transporter but they created

1833
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a technology that actually moved atomic

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characteristics

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from one place to another they acted

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like it was a transported device and the

1837
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press picked it up as a transporter

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but

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i honestly think that the thing that

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we'll do first i believe because we have

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a world here we have energy needs and we

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have

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people needs

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i think the first thing we're going to

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do is build what is known as the

1846
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replicator that you see on star trek

1847
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again science fiction to become science

1848
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fact that would be like an enhanced 3d

1849
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printer almost all a replicator is is

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a

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in the proper

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such that

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a stake is made or a

1854
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fig newton

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is made i suppose then if you have a

1856
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sophisticated technology

1857
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:34,800
you say i want steak from this

1858
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steakhouse

1859
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medium-rare

1860
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eight-ounce sirloin or something i'm

1861
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just throwing this out i don't eat steak

1862
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that often not at least

1863
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at all actually i mean it it's not for

1864
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me but i i do

1865
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you know i do think that there is a a

1866
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possibility that uh and that that's a

1867
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whole show in itself you know star trek

1868
01:11:57,750 --> 01:11:56,800
technology that could become a reality

1869
01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:57,760
right

1870
01:12:02,149 --> 01:11:59,440
and i think that

1871
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:02,159
uh replicators are probably one of those

1872
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:04,000
first things that we're going to create

1873
01:12:08,870 --> 01:12:06,800
well let's be clear there's already

1874
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:08,880
many people out there many research

1875
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:11,440
organizations doing research on the warp

1876
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:14,080
bubble issue in fact that's why we know

1877
01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:16,480
that the warp drive the bubble energy is

1878
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:19,120
now reduced from the mass of jupiter to

1879
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,040
the mass of the voyager spacecraft you

1880
01:12:25,270 --> 01:12:23,600
know so there's also labs out there that

1881
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:25,280
are doing research on the alcubury

1882
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:28,159
metric and to see if it is plausible we

1883
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:30,960
can't say it's plausible yet because we

1884
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:33,280
can't generate the energies required to

1885
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:35,440
make a warp bubble the idea would be

1886
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:37,520
well if we can't generate that energy

1887
01:12:41,910 --> 01:12:40,159
maybe they occur naturally and maybe we

1888
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:41,920
can find a warp bubble out there and

1889
01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:44,719
utilize that now that's a long shot and

1890
01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:47,120
but it is a possibility is that like

1891
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:50,080
almost in the tv show farscape they

1892
01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:52,000
traveled through a wormhole to get from

1893
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:54,239
one part of the galaxy to another

1894
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:55,760
i think we want to be careful there

1895
01:12:58,229 --> 01:12:56,640
because

1896
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:58,239
a wormhole

1897
01:13:01,990 --> 01:13:00,719
and this technology that i'm talking

1898
01:13:03,189 --> 01:13:02,000
about these are two different things

1899
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:03,199
wormholes

1900
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:05,280
are fully within our

1901
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:06,960
standard model of physics they're within

1902
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:09,360
the standard model that we live within

1903
01:13:12,630 --> 01:13:10,960
okay we understand wormholes we

1904
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:12,640
understand einstein's theory of

1905
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:15,760
relativity as it relates to wormholes we

1906
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:17,520
understand how

1907
01:13:22,870 --> 01:13:19,840
hawking relates to his

1908
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:22,880
concepts to wormholes and so a wormhole

1909
01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:24,400
is not i think where we're going with

1910
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:26,560
this i think we're talking about

1911
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:29,280
something outside of the wormhole but

1912
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:31,600
the logical thought is that it's a path

1913
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:33,760
that connects a to b and so you might

1914
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,760
think wormhole but i'd be hesitant to go

1915
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:37,199
down that path and call it a wormhole

1916
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:38,320
because that puts it now into a

1917
01:13:40,790 --> 01:13:40,000
different physical realm of physics

1918
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:40,800
realm

1919
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:42,640
right but the argument as i said before

1920
01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:44,000
is you're making

1921
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:46,719
having a way to just jump from here to

1922
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:48,960
there however it's done that's a

1923
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:50,800
stargate still right

1924
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:53,600
ah you know what i guess by some kind of

1925
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:54,640
name

1926
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:59,520
it that you know it's a great show i

1927
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:01,120
like macgyver

1928
01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:02,400
on it you know

1929
01:14:05,430 --> 01:14:04,159
you know that thing went through more

1930
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:05,440
episodes

1931
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:07,440
than any star trek series it was on for

1932
01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:09,840
like what 15 years before it went off

1933
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:12,320
with different series stargate atlantis

1934
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:15,360
yes and we had stargate universe

1935
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:18,560
yes and then we had stargate sg-1 but

1936
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:20,719
the other thing that was interesting too

1937
01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:23,679
is now the original creators of stargate

1938
01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:25,840
rowan emerick and dean devlin who just

1939
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:28,640
had this semi-failure of an independence

1940
01:14:34,790 --> 01:14:31,679
day sequel they want to go back and redo

1941
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:34,800
stargate all over again i hope they do i

1942
01:14:37,350 --> 01:14:36,000
hope they do

1943
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:37,360
i think that'd be great and you know

1944
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,880
what i think they need doug tremble

1945
01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:42,560
well you should give him a call

1946
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:44,719
yeah i i don't i think that doug knows

1947
01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:47,280
role in america actually but you know

1948
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:49,760
he's he's particular for instance he was

1949
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:51,360
offered the star wars franchise by

1950
01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:54,560
george lucas and he decided he didn't

1951
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want to do it because he didn't like the

1952
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:58,800
star wars universe quote unquote that is

1953
01:15:03,870 --> 01:15:01,440
to say what passed for reality in that

1954
01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:03,880
universe he's he's more of a

1955
01:15:07,990 --> 01:15:06,640
science-related guy when it comes to

1956
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movies he doesn't want to do stuff

1957
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:10,800
that's so far outside that realm

1958
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:12,719
yet our latest movie we did called

1959
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euphotog which actually is a you know

1960
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:17,440
named after the the actual ufo detection

1961
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,400
system

1962
01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:20,480
you know that movie is a 14 minute test

1963
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:21,840
movie that shows

1964
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:24,000
you know a concept in movie making that

1965
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was pioneered up at the studio and

1966
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:29,199
but in that movie we went for

1967
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:30,800
not wormholes but we went for extra

1968
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dimensional travel and traveling that

1969
01:15:36,229 --> 01:15:34,400
way and

1970
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:36,239
we have another movie that we want to do

1971
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:38,800
and uh it relays

1972
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:41,360
you know an arc basically of human

1973
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:43,920
beings humanity leaving earth and going

1974
01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:45,840
to another star

1975
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:47,199
in the universe

1976
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and it realistically you know it takes

1977
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:51,280
80 years to get there i mean it's it's a

1978
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long distance

1979
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:54,800
uh you know space opera basically and

1980
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it's a you know we see successive crews

1981
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of families and children growing to

1982
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grown old men yeah all that stuff you

1983
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:03,760
know in in the course of the movies is

1984
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where it's going

1985
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:07,440
so he likes the more real stuff but you

1986
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know if the whole concept as we're

1987
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talking about

1988
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of extra dimensional travel could be

1989
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quantified in a way

1990
01:16:19,110 --> 01:16:17,360
that science can say well you know it's

1991
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:19,120
it's not here yet but maybe it can

1992
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:21,600
happen just like we know that alcubery

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metric can work if

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we have the right amount of energy to do

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x y and z then i would say that uh you

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know that was something that he would

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probably have an interest in

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we've got more

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to get interested in with gina and chris

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and mark you're in the paracast

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[Music]

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[Music]

2098
01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:08,880
this is jerome clark author of the ufo

2099
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encyclopedia and other books you're

2100
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:19,110
mark d'antonio is with us we're

2101
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:21,120
exploring the science

2102
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the possible future science

2103
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after we started out with

2104
01:21:30,149 --> 01:21:27,840
the possibilities of life out there and

2105
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what we discovered about it the ways to

2106
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:33,520
get from there to here and back again

2107
01:21:37,990 --> 01:21:36,000
chris you have a question or two yeah i

2108
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:38,000
do the first one

2109
01:21:42,149 --> 01:21:39,360
relates to

2110
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,159
mark's role as a chief video and

2111
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:44,239
photographic analyst for

2112
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:45,440
mufon

2113
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:46,960
and the fact that

2114
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:48,960
you know you are a scientist and you do

2115
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:50,880
have very discerning

2116
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:52,719
analytical abilities

2117
01:21:59,590 --> 01:21:56,320
in matthew 1977 wants to know if the d

2118
01:22:00,870 --> 01:21:59,600
in d'antonio stands for debunker

2119
01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:00,880
you know what

2120
01:22:05,350 --> 01:22:02,719
i i get that question a lot not about

2121
01:22:07,910 --> 01:22:05,360
the d in my name but uh matthew to

2122
01:22:10,550 --> 01:22:07,920
answer your question okay and i have a

2123
01:22:12,149 --> 01:22:10,560
little smirk on my face because those

2124
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:12,159
that work with me know that i'm not a

2125
01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:14,639
debunker i am absolutely hard on the

2126
01:22:16,870 --> 01:22:15,520
data

2127
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:16,880
and i'll tell you why

2128
01:22:20,709 --> 01:22:18,400
because we know there's not a lot of

2129
01:22:23,110 --> 01:22:20,719
good data out there and we have to

2130
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:23,120
maintain the ability to discern between

2131
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,480
the good and the bad that's all there is

2132
01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:26,400
to it and

2133
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:28,320
i know that

2134
01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:30,880
i may not always be right on

2135
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:33,440
an assessment of an object i don't claim

2136
01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:34,960
to be

2137
01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:36,960
right but all i can bring to the table

2138
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:38,880
are my skills that i've developed over

2139
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:41,520
the last 40 years to try and discern the

2140
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,600
difference i understand computer

2141
01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:45,120
generated graphics i do that for a

2142
01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:46,320
living

2143
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:47,679
in part

2144
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:49,760
and i have my own studio here i do my

2145
01:22:54,070 --> 01:22:52,159
own visual effects work i can see and

2146
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,080
recognize good special effects and bad

2147
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:56,880
special effects in the cg realm and in

2148
01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:58,159
the physical realm

2149
01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:00,880
and i recognize things like

2150
01:23:05,189 --> 01:23:02,560
for instance kites that are fitted with

2151
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:05,199
leds that are flown as ufos

2152
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:07,199
i can analyze those and i can actually

2153
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:08,880
show the structure of the kite behind

2154
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:10,960
the lights for instance and

2155
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:13,120
i work with other scientists who are

2156
01:23:15,669 --> 01:23:14,239
actually

2157
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:15,679
into this

2158
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:18,000
realm as well and you know i never work

2159
01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:20,400
in a vacuum i'm not the be all end-all

2160
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:22,960
and never ever said i was and

2161
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i think that you have to be a team and

2162
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:27,280
you know a good solid team

2163
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:29,679
in order to do this but

2164
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i may not

2165
01:23:36,629 --> 01:23:34,159
uh agree that something is a ufo when

2166
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:36,639
you know 50 000 people might say it is

2167
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:37,840
you should have heard the names that was

2168
01:23:41,189 --> 01:23:39,679
called when that norway spiral started

2169
01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:41,199
occurring

2170
01:23:47,030 --> 01:23:43,600
i got you're right i just had a new one

2171
01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:47,040
last week yeah right i got that video

2172
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:49,199
minutes after it was filmed it was sent

2173
01:23:52,550 --> 01:23:50,400
right to me

2174
01:23:54,070 --> 01:23:52,560
i looked at it and literally within

2175
01:23:55,910 --> 01:23:54,080
within five minutes of viewing that

2176
01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:55,920
video i said i know exactly what i think

2177
01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:58,159
this i think i know exactly what this is

2178
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:00,159
this is a failed rocket launch

2179
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:02,719
and i was waiting for that dark

2180
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:04,400
thing you know that we saw in the center

2181
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:06,159
that people called a stargate opening up

2182
01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:08,080
i was waiting for that because that was

2183
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:09,520
going to be to me

2184
01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:12,239
the destruction of the rocket body

2185
01:24:15,669 --> 01:24:14,080
and the stuff that had already flowed

2186
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:15,679
out of the rocket body would continue to

2187
01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:16,480
go

2188
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:18,159
and when it stopped flowing out it would

2189
01:24:22,310 --> 01:24:19,600
start with a small

2190
01:24:24,790 --> 01:24:22,320
black area and then expand outward and

2191
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:24,800
that's exactly what we saw and i waited

2192
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:26,480
for it i was saying i think this is a

2193
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:28,960
rocket body rocket failure you know a

2194
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:30,960
gimbal lock or something was and

2195
01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:33,280
somebody had to destroy a launch

2196
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:35,520
sure enough the black disc you know

2197
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,480
shows up

2198
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,880
i said i i believe that it's a rocket

2199
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:40,320
failure you know i think somebody lost

2200
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:41,520
the missile and

2201
01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:43,280
uh it's a failure and i was called

2202
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:44,960
unbelievable names everybody's you know

2203
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:46,400
are you idiot you're a jerk you're a

2204
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:48,239
debunker you're this you're that

2205
01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:50,080
i said no you know what i have a thick

2206
01:24:54,629 --> 01:24:51,920
hide you're not getting through it

2207
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:54,639
i'm just going by what i know this can

2208
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:57,120
be and we have to err on the side of the

2209
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:00,239
knowns if it fits

2210
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:03,040
that fit so like

2211
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:05,600
well you have to you have no choice you

2212
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:07,040
know i don't care what people call me i

2213
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:08,719
don't care what people say the bottom

2214
01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:10,320
line is that if i wasn't hard on the

2215
01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:12,560
data i'd be doing all of you out there

2216
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:14,639
in the audience and you matt a

2217
01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:17,280
disservice in saying yeah i think it's a

2218
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:19,360
ufo you know i believe they're here i've

2219
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:21,920
had experiences that you know took me to

2220
01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:23,679
you know a surgeon to remove something

2221
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that was embedded in my sinus okay it

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was a very traumatic event and it

2223
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precipitated me moving out of my old

2224
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house because of it so

2225
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i'm no i'm no neophyte to this and i'm

2226
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no

2227
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goes i don't need to

2228
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um you know so i i believe they're here

2229
01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:42,719
i believe that we have something going

2230
01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:45,600
on i witnessed the uso on a nuclear

2231
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:48,400
submarine in 1994 when i was a guest on

2232
01:25:52,149 --> 01:25:50,960
board a nuclear sub i wasn't a sailor

2233
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:52,159
but i was a guest

2234
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and um

2235
01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:55,520
we we saw something that was moving

2236
01:25:58,629 --> 01:25:57,360
according to the sonar guy several

2237
01:26:01,350 --> 01:25:58,639
hundred knots

2238
01:26:03,350 --> 01:26:01,360
underwater underwater and because i saw

2239
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:03,360
it on the sonar and you know the kid the

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01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:05,920
kid i called the kid the sonar guy saw

2241
01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:08,159
it and he called the executive officer

2242
01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:09,760
over and he exo said what do you got he

2243
01:26:14,870 --> 01:26:11,840
says you know now subs are quiet right

2244
01:26:16,629 --> 01:26:14,880
but there's a there's a perpetual hum

2245
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:16,639
and noise you hear on the sub so you

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01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:18,000
can't hear every word when someone's

2247
01:26:22,149 --> 01:26:20,320
speaking quietly you just can't and it's

2248
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:22,159
quiet on the outside not on the inside

2249
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:24,320
you know it's like you know caramel on

2250
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the inside not on the outside or

2251
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:28,880
whatever well anyway um when

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when he started talking about the course

2253
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and the bearing i i saw where it was on

2254
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the on the screen

2255
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but then i heard him say you know when

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the when the exo asked him

2257
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executive officer asked him how fast it

2258
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:42,080
was going he said several hundred knots

2259
01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:44,000
and i was astonished

2260
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and

2261
01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:46,639
after they had their little talk you

2262
01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:49,520
know they exo you know told the kid okay

2263
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:51,600
we'll log it and dog it you know just

2264
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log it and then

2265
01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:54,560
ditch it you know get rid of it hide it

2266
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:56,400
we put it in there and dog it turned out

2267
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:57,440
to be

2268
01:27:01,590 --> 01:27:00,000
put it in the file with the rest of them

2269
01:27:03,590 --> 01:27:01,600
as it turns out and

2270
01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:03,600
i later talked to that executive officer

2271
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:05,920
and i said hey you know i have uh

2272
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:07,600
i have a little experience with these

2273
01:27:11,590 --> 01:27:09,760
these uh fast movers underwater you know

2274
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:11,600
can i help you or anything he put his

2275
01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:12,800
hand on my shoulder and he said are you

2276
01:27:17,590 --> 01:27:14,880
having a good time mr d'antonio i said

2277
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:17,600
yes i am he said let's keep it that way

2278
01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:20,870
okay

2279
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:22,239
well there you go

2280
01:27:25,510 --> 01:27:23,920
you mentioned something in passing that

2281
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i'm not going to let that on you because

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i'll be i'll be dogged by our listeners

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you actually had on

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what you thought was an implant removed

2285
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could you tell us about that i don't

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think we've ever talked about this

2287
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well

2288
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it in my old in my old house i ended up

2289
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having

2290
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a situation where

2291
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i was awakened over the course of three

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nights by something that was knocking at

2293
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the top of my roof

2294
01:27:52,229 --> 01:27:50,960
and the first night i heard it and i

2295
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went back to sleep the second night i

2296
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heard it and i got up and i went to look

2297
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out the window and i had to lean over my

2298
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two greyhound dogs which were sleeping

2299
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underneath the window it was a summer

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night august night

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and

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the

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uh

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as i pressed my head to the screen to

2305
01:28:10,870 --> 01:28:08,400
look up to see what was making that

2306
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:10,880
banging noise at the top of my roof

2307
01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:13,600
that didn't wake anybody up but me

2308
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:16,159
um the dogs were looking at it you know

2309
01:28:18,950 --> 01:28:17,600
and i could see in the dim light because

2310
01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:18,960
there was a street light out there that

2311
01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:21,280
was bathing the room in light a little

2312
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:23,120
bit of light i could see the dogs were

2313
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:24,719
even looking at it you know and i was

2314
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:26,880
like what is that and i looked up and i

2315
01:28:30,470 --> 01:28:28,639
thought it was like a superstar

2316
01:28:31,510 --> 01:28:30,480
woodpecker or something like boom boom

2317
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:31,520
boom you know

2318
01:28:36,229 --> 01:28:33,040
like a beak the size of mount

2319
01:28:38,229 --> 01:28:36,239
kilimanjaro banging on my house and i

2320
01:28:40,149 --> 01:28:38,239
went to look up and i got hit in the

2321
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:40,159
face with a flash of white light

2322
01:28:43,990 --> 01:28:42,239
and i thought that i had a medical event

2323
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:44,000
i didn't think i was you know

2324
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:45,760
abducted or anything i thought was a

2325
01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:47,040
medical event

2326
01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:49,679
and i was i froze

2327
01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:52,080
and i realized i was just flash blinded

2328
01:28:55,669 --> 01:28:53,679
something flashed in my face what the

2329
01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:55,679
heck and i thought it came from inside i

2330
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thought it was a medical thing like i

2331
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:57,760
said

2332
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and

2333
01:29:08,470 --> 01:29:06,639
outside just peering in with her ears

2334
01:29:09,910 --> 01:29:08,480
down and her head down low

2335
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:09,920
and they never slept under that window

2336
01:29:13,510 --> 01:29:10,960
again

2337
01:29:14,470 --> 01:29:13,520
uh after that that was that's a fact i

2338
01:29:15,669 --> 01:29:14,480
had to move their beds because they

2339
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wouldn't sleep on their beds anymore

2340
01:29:18,550 --> 01:29:17,199
they just wouldn't go near that window

2341
01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:18,560
so that was the second night and the

2342
01:29:22,790 --> 01:29:19,760
third night

2343
01:29:23,669 --> 01:29:22,800
i woke up and i realized that i couldn't

2344
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:23,679
move

2345
01:29:26,870 --> 01:29:25,520
i couldn't hear my ears were not working

2346
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:26,880
never shut off

2347
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:28,400
and the worst part was i couldn't move

2348
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:29,440
my eyes

2349
01:29:33,189 --> 01:29:31,440
they were fixed and forward and i

2350
01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:33,199
couldn't move them i mean

2351
01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:35,679
it's like this is what it's like and i

2352
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:37,360
thought oh no

2353
01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:38,719
this was a medical event i should have

2354
01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:40,560
said something because now this is the

2355
01:29:45,669 --> 01:29:43,840
real problem showing up you know however

2356
01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:45,679
out of the corner of my eye you know the

2357
01:29:50,950 --> 01:29:48,239
peripheral vision i could see a

2358
01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:50,960
shape move past the open window and it

2359
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:52,960
kind of approached me and i was thinking

2360
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:55,280
well i'm i'm in my bed how can it be

2361
01:29:58,870 --> 01:29:56,960
approaching me like this

2362
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:58,880
it was smoothly walking toward me i

2363
01:30:01,669 --> 01:29:59,760
guess

2364
01:30:03,430 --> 01:30:01,679
and it it i couldn't tell its shape

2365
01:30:06,149 --> 01:30:03,440
because i couldn't look directly at it

2366
01:30:09,830 --> 01:30:06,159
but it looked sort of human-y humany

2367
01:30:12,070 --> 01:30:09,840
and it had a long thin

2368
01:30:14,629 --> 01:30:12,080
thing long thin appendage i guess and

2369
01:30:16,149 --> 01:30:14,639
then it had a shiny not shiny but

2370
01:30:17,830 --> 01:30:16,159
illuminated white

2371
01:30:19,910 --> 01:30:17,840
wand type thing and it moved it back and

2372
01:30:21,910 --> 01:30:19,920
forth in front of my nose you know and

2373
01:30:24,149 --> 01:30:21,920
that was out of my it was below my

2374
01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:24,159
vision but it was like you know it would

2375
01:30:26,790 --> 01:30:25,520
come into my vision a little bit as it

2376
01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:26,800
would pass in front of me because i

2377
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:28,320
couldn't move my eyes i couldn't look at

2378
01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:28,960
it

2379
01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:30,880
i could only look straight ahead

2380
01:30:34,950 --> 01:30:33,120
before we go on let's do a cliffhanger

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we'll figure out what's going on there

2382
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or not

2383
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mark d'antonio's telling us about

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01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:46,239
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2488
01:34:49,990 --> 01:34:48,480
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2489
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,000
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2490
01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:52,800
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2491
01:35:01,300 --> 01:34:56,639
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2492
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:05,990
[Music]

2493
01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:08,080
hi it's grant cameron from presidential

2494
01:35:19,830 --> 01:35:11,840
ufo.com you're listening to the paracast

2495
01:35:23,350 --> 01:35:21,430
with jean and chris and mark on the

2496
01:35:25,270 --> 01:35:23,360
power cast we continue

2497
01:35:27,270 --> 01:35:25,280
as you tell us about your experience

2498
01:35:29,110 --> 01:35:27,280
here it sounds like a sleep paralysis

2499
01:35:30,550 --> 01:35:29,120
kind of thing doesn't it though that's

2500
01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:30,560
just what i thought it was and i didn't

2501
01:35:35,189 --> 01:35:32,880
have any issues with it whatsoever i

2502
01:35:36,550 --> 01:35:35,199
figured that bright white light it was a

2503
01:35:39,189 --> 01:35:36,560
medical event i didn't know if it was

2504
01:35:40,870 --> 01:35:39,199
some kind of retina thing or a detaching

2505
01:35:42,470 --> 01:35:40,880
retina which it wasn't

2506
01:35:44,229 --> 01:35:42,480
that third night this thing was moving

2507
01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:44,239
back and forth in front of my face and

2508
01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:46,560
next thing i know bam it was morning and

2509
01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:48,400
i couldn't breathe i was laying on my

2510
01:35:51,110 --> 01:35:49,440
stomach in the bed and i couldn't

2511
01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:51,120
breathe and i had to push myself off the

2512
01:35:53,350 --> 01:35:52,000
bed

2513
01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:53,360
and i was there was that the whole

2514
01:35:57,110 --> 01:35:56,320
pillow was just saturated in my blood

2515
01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:57,120
and

2516
01:36:01,830 --> 01:35:59,760
i was like what the what happened i

2517
01:36:04,229 --> 01:36:01,840
couldn't understand it and when i when i

2518
01:36:07,430 --> 01:36:04,239
reached on the side of my face

2519
01:36:10,229 --> 01:36:07,440
uh you know i felt this intense pounding

2520
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:10,239
pain and it was right in my left nostril

2521
01:36:17,750 --> 01:36:11,040
and

2522
01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:17,760
don't ask me why it took me two years to

2523
01:36:22,149 --> 01:36:19,600
go to the doctor

2524
01:36:24,629 --> 01:36:22,159
but it took me two years

2525
01:36:25,990 --> 01:36:24,639
to go to the doctor and i just started

2526
01:36:27,750 --> 01:36:26,000
carrying on my day normally i didn't

2527
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:27,760
think about it whatsoever

2528
01:36:30,390 --> 01:36:29,280
and when i finally went to the doctor it

2529
01:36:32,070 --> 01:36:30,400
was because i couldn't breathe out of

2530
01:36:34,310 --> 01:36:32,080
that left sinus and from the moment that

2531
01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:34,320
happened the moment i woke up that day

2532
01:36:37,510 --> 01:36:36,320
with that and the blood on the pillow

2533
01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:37,520
i couldn't breathe out of my left

2534
01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:39,199
nostril so for two years i couldn't

2535
01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:40,719
breathe there and so i only had the

2536
01:36:43,830 --> 01:36:41,520
right

2537
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,840
so when i went to him and he sat me down

2538
01:36:47,990 --> 01:36:45,520
he looks up in there and he goes holy

2539
01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:48,000
cow he says you've got something huge up

2540
01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:49,280
there

2541
01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:50,560
and

2542
01:36:55,109 --> 01:36:52,719
he he said you know what i can probably

2543
01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:55,119
get it out you know if so if we can you

2544
01:36:59,510 --> 01:36:56,880
know schedule a procedure i can take it

2545
01:37:00,629 --> 01:36:59,520
out and i said yeah because i i can't

2546
01:37:03,350 --> 01:37:00,639
breathe

2547
01:37:05,590 --> 01:37:03,360
so we did that he took it out and

2548
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:05,600
you know i saw and it looked like two of

2549
01:37:10,149 --> 01:37:08,320
my thumbs together and it was a nasty

2550
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:10,159
fleshy thing i was like you know he

2551
01:37:14,709 --> 01:37:12,000
called it a nasal polyp i said oh okay

2552
01:37:16,629 --> 01:37:14,719
nasal polyp okay i said

2553
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:16,639
can those this is this is where it got

2554
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:18,400
weird i said can those things seed

2555
01:37:22,870 --> 01:37:20,400
around you know like a

2556
01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:22,880
you know a foreign object

2557
01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:24,480
you know could they be caused by like a

2558
01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:26,480
foreign object stuck up there

2559
01:37:29,669 --> 01:37:27,920
it means you mean like a metal a metal

2560
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:29,679
splinter from a machinist i'm like yeah

2561
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:31,679
and he goes oh sure you know that

2562
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:33,920
that's that's a likely path they can

2563
01:37:36,950 --> 01:37:34,880
follow

2564
01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:36,960
i said oh well can you do me a favor i

2565
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:37,760
said

2566
01:37:41,350 --> 01:37:39,520
can you look in the center of it and see

2567
01:37:43,189 --> 01:37:41,360
if there's anything in there

2568
01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:43,199
or somewhere in it make sure you see if

2569
01:37:45,830 --> 01:37:44,719
there's anything in there and he goes

2570
01:37:47,270 --> 01:37:45,840
why

2571
01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:47,280
and i made the mistake of telling him

2572
01:37:51,910 --> 01:37:49,199
the story i just told you

2573
01:37:54,870 --> 01:37:51,920
and at the end of it he laughed said oh

2574
01:37:56,950 --> 01:37:54,880
he goes i'm sure it wasn't aliens

2575
01:37:58,550 --> 01:37:56,960
okay he says call me in a week and i'll

2576
01:37:59,350 --> 01:37:58,560
have the results for you all right all

2577
01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:59,360
right

2578
01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:01,280
so a week passes and i call the doctor's

2579
01:38:04,229 --> 01:38:03,280
office and this you know receptionist

2580
01:38:06,310 --> 01:38:04,239
answers

2581
01:38:07,990 --> 01:38:06,320
i said my name and she goes oh hold on

2582
01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:08,000
the doctor wants to talk to you i went

2583
01:38:10,709 --> 01:38:09,679
whoa whoa wait whenever the doctor wants

2584
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:10,719
to talk to you you know it ain't good

2585
01:38:14,950 --> 01:38:12,239
news right

2586
01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:14,960
so he gets on the phone and he says hey

2587
01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:16,560
ark i just want to tell you that you

2588
01:38:20,950 --> 01:38:18,719
know there's nothing to worry about it's

2589
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:20,960
it's a benign thing nothing to worry

2590
01:38:25,109 --> 01:38:23,440
about and i said oh so did they look at

2591
01:38:27,430 --> 01:38:25,119
it did they find it you know did they

2592
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:27,440
find anything going on with it and he

2593
01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:30,719
goes well he says that's the problem he

2594
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:32,080
goes that's why i want to talk to he

2595
01:38:37,590 --> 01:38:34,960
goes i have a record of them getting it

2596
01:38:39,750 --> 01:38:37,600
okay but they say they never received it

2597
01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:39,760
and it's basically lost

2598
01:38:44,709 --> 01:38:43,280
and i said wait you lost it he goes yeah

2599
01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:44,719
it's the first time it's ever happened

2600
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:46,480
in my practice

2601
01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:47,920
that's what he told me

2602
01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:50,960
and he was he was 65 at the time

2603
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:52,320
so

2604
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:56,800
years later

2605
01:39:01,510 --> 01:38:59,199
uh he was gonna be retiring and i had

2606
01:39:03,109 --> 01:39:01,520
another issue i went to him for

2607
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:03,119
and i never got an answer on it other

2608
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:04,320
than he's you know he just said it was a

2609
01:39:07,669 --> 01:39:05,520
benign thing

2610
01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:07,679
so i go to him four years later on

2611
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:09,440
something else and he was telling me oh

2612
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:11,679
i'm gonna retire he says i just gave up

2613
01:39:15,910 --> 01:39:14,000
my top secret clearance this year i went

2614
01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:15,920
whoa wait what what

2615
01:39:19,910 --> 01:39:17,600
i said i don't know of any top secret

2616
01:39:21,990 --> 01:39:19,920
ear nose and throat surgeons

2617
01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:22,000
okay and he says yeah well he goes i

2618
01:39:28,229 --> 01:39:24,239
wasn't always a surgeon that was where i

2619
01:39:31,109 --> 01:39:28,239
went and i held the clearance since then

2620
01:39:32,629 --> 01:39:31,119
and he told me about an event where he

2621
01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:32,639
and his team

2622
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:34,480
launched the missile into space to take

2623
01:39:39,510 --> 01:39:37,360
down an enemy satellite and he said that

2624
01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:39,520
they launched the missile out in the

2625
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:41,280
middle of the pacific ocean i didn't he

2626
01:39:44,390 --> 01:39:42,480
wouldn't tell me where maybe from an

2627
01:39:45,430 --> 01:39:44,400
atoll or whatever i thought it was from

2628
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:45,440
a ship

2629
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:47,040
um but then i realized you know there's

2630
01:39:51,030 --> 01:39:48,480
not a whole lot of missiles that can

2631
01:39:52,149 --> 01:39:51,040
reach space from a ship okay

2632
01:39:53,990 --> 01:39:52,159
and

2633
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:54,000
yeah he said that he was in charge of

2634
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:56,400
the engineering just the firing solution

2635
01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:57,760
for this thing

2636
01:40:02,229 --> 01:40:00,159
um and that that's you know he had that

2637
01:40:03,830 --> 01:40:02,239
clearance and they cleared 1600 miles

2638
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:03,840
all around that place that they launched

2639
01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:05,040
it from

2640
01:40:08,870 --> 01:40:06,880
um you know to make sure they could do

2641
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:08,880
it and they destroyed an enemy satellite

2642
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:10,800
with it that's what he said

2643
01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:12,800
so i was like wow

2644
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:16,080
uh why are you telling me this you know

2645
01:40:20,870 --> 01:40:19,360
apparently he forgot that i was there

2646
01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:20,880
you know a few years earlier with this

2647
01:40:23,750 --> 01:40:21,760
problem

2648
01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:23,760
and then it all made sense to me

2649
01:40:28,149 --> 01:40:25,360
i put it together as this as a

2650
01:40:30,070 --> 01:40:28,159
possibility possibility not definite

2651
01:40:31,590 --> 01:40:30,080
possibility

2652
01:40:33,510 --> 01:40:31,600
he made the call

2653
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:33,520
because he had to

2654
01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:35,199
under the conditions of your clearance

2655
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:37,520
and i know this by experience

2656
01:40:41,990 --> 01:40:39,920
that if you see anything that's odd like

2657
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:42,000
that you need to contact

2658
01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:42,880
people

2659
01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:44,560
above you to

2660
01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:46,880
pass it on and it'll go up the chain

2661
01:40:51,109 --> 01:40:48,560
so it's possible that

2662
01:40:52,870 --> 01:40:51,119
my thing that they took out was you know

2663
01:40:55,030 --> 01:40:52,880
he called on it because of what i said

2664
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:55,040
and how i explained how it happened

2665
01:40:59,510 --> 01:40:55,920
and

2666
01:41:02,870 --> 01:40:59,520
mean i'm not saying that's what happened

2667
01:41:04,390 --> 01:41:02,880
but it's all that i can think of because

2668
01:41:06,149 --> 01:41:04,400
how do you explain that as being the

2669
01:41:07,830 --> 01:41:06,159
only time it ever happens in your in

2670
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:07,840
your practice

2671
01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:09,040
wow what a

2672
01:41:12,950 --> 01:41:11,199
intriguing story oh my goodness well

2673
01:41:14,470 --> 01:41:12,960
it's all it's all verifiable stuff you

2674
01:41:16,629 --> 01:41:14,480
know i mean at the doctor give us the

2675
01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:16,639
time frame

2676
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:18,239
how long did the initial experience

2677
01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:19,440
happen

2678
01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:21,360
i think it was about 22 years ago now

2679
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:23,280
about 20 to 23 years

2680
01:41:26,470 --> 01:41:24,719
and um

2681
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,480
you know that was that was followed by

2682
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:28,239
several others which you know i don't

2683
01:41:31,990 --> 01:41:29,760
want to you know

2684
01:41:33,350 --> 01:41:32,000
just dive into right now but it's just

2685
01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:33,360
you know a couple of other you know

2686
01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:35,440
crazy things happened and then

2687
01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:37,360
i had uh

2688
01:41:40,390 --> 01:41:38,960
i was laying in the upstairs room here

2689
01:41:41,189 --> 01:41:40,400
in the house i'm in

2690
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:41,199
and

2691
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:43,760
uh i heard little feet walking around in

2692
01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:46,560
the attic above me and my wife

2693
01:41:49,669 --> 01:41:48,400
was also right next to me she heard this

2694
01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:49,679
little feet

2695
01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:51,600
and we followed the footsteps across the

2696
01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:53,600
floor by looking at the floor where the

2697
01:41:56,390 --> 01:41:54,880
sound was coming from they followed them

2698
01:41:58,070 --> 01:41:56,400
across the floor

2699
01:41:59,669 --> 01:41:58,080
and we could hear them turning on the

2700
01:42:02,229 --> 01:41:59,679
ball of the foot that sounds like

2701
01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:02,239
children and i had two young children in

2702
01:42:04,870 --> 01:42:03,360
the other room

2703
01:42:06,470 --> 01:42:04,880
and i was thinking what are the kids

2704
01:42:07,510 --> 01:42:06,480
doing in the attic and she said the same

2705
01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:07,520
thing

2706
01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:09,600
i got up and i ran into their room and

2707
01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:12,080
they were both in their beds

2708
01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:13,679
and i said uh oh

2709
01:42:17,109 --> 01:42:15,440
this is there's something with two legs

2710
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:17,119
a little thing walking around in my

2711
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:19,600
upstairs at it what the heck is that

2712
01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:20,800
so

2713
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:23,520
i i at the time i was doing uh you know

2714
01:42:27,590 --> 01:42:25,440
some special work for the navy

2715
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:27,600
and uh i work out of my home for that

2716
01:42:31,430 --> 01:42:30,239
and with my business fx models and

2717
01:42:37,189 --> 01:42:31,440
so

2718
01:42:39,430 --> 01:42:37,199
and i told them okay i think we have an

2719
01:42:41,430 --> 01:42:39,440
intruder not you know you can't

2720
01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:41,440
be sure but we're hearing footsteps

2721
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:43,040
above us

2722
01:42:46,629 --> 01:42:45,280
and you know they know what i do in this

2723
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:46,639
town and

2724
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:48,159
i immediately as i was saying that i

2725
01:42:50,950 --> 01:42:49,440
looked out the window and i see the blue

2726
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:50,960
lights reflecting off the trees because

2727
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,480
they're already on their way

2728
01:42:57,270 --> 01:42:54,400
and they came

2729
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:57,280
within 15 seconds they were there and

2730
01:43:00,870 --> 01:42:59,520
they came out and they they split up

2731
01:43:02,470 --> 01:43:00,880
they went around the house they checked

2732
01:43:04,229 --> 01:43:02,480
the eaves on the outside to make sure

2733
01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:04,239
nobody had punched them out

2734
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:06,239
then we all went inside the house and we

2735
01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:07,520
went to the place where you have to go

2736
01:43:13,109 --> 01:43:09,360
up a small set of stairs

2737
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:13,119
to open a door to get into this attic

2738
01:43:16,070 --> 01:43:14,239
okay

2739
01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:16,080
do you know that not one of us said

2740
01:43:20,229 --> 01:43:17,840
let's go up in the attic

2741
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:20,239
we just stared at that door

2742
01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:20,960
and

2743
01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:23,760
said oh hi okay well i guess it's

2744
01:43:27,750 --> 01:43:26,000
nothing and they went home they went the

2745
01:43:29,350 --> 01:43:27,760
cops never even checked yeah

2746
01:43:32,149 --> 01:43:29,360
never checked the attic

2747
01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:32,159
and i was blown away by that later on

2748
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:34,960
the next day when i said to myself

2749
01:43:38,950 --> 01:43:36,400
what the heck

2750
01:43:40,790 --> 01:43:38,960
isn't it their job why what made them

2751
01:43:42,870 --> 01:43:40,800
stay away from there

2752
01:43:44,229 --> 01:43:42,880
maybe nothing maybe they were just not

2753
01:43:46,550 --> 01:43:44,239
efficient or something i don't know but

2754
01:43:48,709 --> 01:43:46,560
i can't say that because these are these

2755
01:43:50,149 --> 01:43:48,719
are good folks here so i don't know what

2756
01:43:51,669 --> 01:43:50,159
it was but

2757
01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:51,679
it was definitely something i could not

2758
01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:53,520
explain

2759
01:43:57,510 --> 01:43:56,400
wow

2760
01:43:59,189 --> 01:43:57,520
well

2761
01:44:00,070 --> 01:43:59,199
here's here's another question kind of

2762
01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:00,080
well

2763
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:02,400
i must say that's a fascinating personal

2764
01:44:05,590 --> 01:44:03,920
experiences so

2765
01:44:07,990 --> 01:44:05,600
yeah but it's unprovable right i mean

2766
01:44:10,629 --> 01:44:08,000
it's um yeah it's all improvable but it

2767
01:44:12,390 --> 01:44:10,639
does uh indicate not just possible

2768
01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:12,400
motivations that you have to be so

2769
01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:14,560
interested in these subjects

2770
01:44:19,350 --> 01:44:16,239
maybe so but but i want to point out

2771
01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:19,360
something very very important here okay

2772
01:44:24,149 --> 01:44:22,080
we all hear about anecdotal evidence

2773
01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:24,159
people call things anecdotal evidence i

2774
01:44:28,070 --> 01:44:26,480
think those words don't belong together

2775
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:28,080
what happened to me everything i've

2776
01:44:34,149 --> 01:44:31,360
relayed is anecdotal information it only

2777
01:44:35,510 --> 01:44:34,159
becomes evidence when multiple people

2778
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:35,520
have the same

2779
01:44:40,310 --> 01:44:38,159
information you from different time

2780
01:44:42,550 --> 01:44:40,320
frames or different sources it comes

2781
01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:42,560
together then it can be called evidence

2782
01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:44,480
right so i only i only have anecdotal

2783
01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:47,040
information i don't have anecdotal

2784
01:44:50,149 --> 01:44:48,560
evidence that those those words don't

2785
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:50,159
make sense so

2786
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,480
it's information not evidence and and so

2787
01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:54,400
you have to take it for what it is

2788
01:44:59,669 --> 01:44:57,440
uh with my background i'm very hard on

2789
01:45:00,550 --> 01:44:59,679
my own data i'm not just anyone else's

2790
01:45:02,470 --> 01:45:00,560
i'm i'm

2791
01:45:04,870 --> 01:45:02,480
did you ever go up to the attic i mean

2792
01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:04,880
days later did you go slowly

2793
01:45:08,310 --> 01:45:06,560
absolutely did you find any any

2794
01:45:09,910 --> 01:45:08,320
footprints and dust or anything moved

2795
01:45:11,109 --> 01:45:09,920
around out of place or anything like

2796
01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:11,119
that

2797
01:45:16,390 --> 01:45:14,719
had been up there and playing around

2798
01:45:19,030 --> 01:45:16,400
aha we'll get into more of that in a

2799
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:19,040
moment i'm not going to say that was it

2800
01:45:23,350 --> 01:45:21,119
we got mark d'antonio

2801
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:23,360
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2802
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2803
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2881
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i was ragging on you mark because of the

2882
01:48:58,950 --> 01:48:57,199
fact that you were looking into that

2883
01:49:01,750 --> 01:48:58,960
attic situation so where do we go from

2884
01:49:03,590 --> 01:49:01,760
there well when it was happening the

2885
01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:03,600
first thing i did was to go check to see

2886
01:49:05,750 --> 01:49:04,960
if my kids were in their beds than they

2887
01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:05,760
were

2888
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:07,360
and that's why the police got called

2889
01:49:10,149 --> 01:49:08,800
because we thought for sure there was

2890
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:10,159
something up there i mean we could hear

2891
01:49:13,270 --> 01:49:11,440
it walking around

2892
01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:13,280
if you walk in the room above you you

2893
01:49:16,229 --> 01:49:14,480
know

2894
01:49:17,990 --> 01:49:16,239
in a in your house or whatever you can

2895
01:49:19,189 --> 01:49:18,000
actually hear yourself walking across

2896
01:49:20,070 --> 01:49:19,199
the floor

2897
01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:20,080
um

2898
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:21,280
but

2899
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:22,159
the

2900
01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:24,320
ceiling

2901
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:28,560
our attic

2902
01:49:33,189 --> 01:49:31,280
and that flat plywood is closer

2903
01:49:34,870 --> 01:49:33,199
to the ceiling

2904
01:49:36,709 --> 01:49:34,880
you know than a regular floor would be

2905
01:49:37,990 --> 01:49:36,719
which has several inches between it

2906
01:49:39,669 --> 01:49:38,000
there's only a couple inches between

2907
01:49:42,149 --> 01:49:39,679
this so

2908
01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:42,159
i could hear the grittiness the grit

2909
01:49:45,669 --> 01:49:43,679
underneath the foot

2910
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:45,679
of whatever was up there turning and

2911
01:49:50,070 --> 01:49:48,080
moving you know and spinning around as

2912
01:49:52,629 --> 01:49:50,080
it was moving to different places

2913
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:52,639
and whatever it was it was moving faster

2914
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:54,560
you know it sounded like a tiny kid it

2915
01:49:58,550 --> 01:49:56,159
wasn't

2916
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:58,560
across the floor it was like pad pad pad

2917
01:50:02,310 --> 01:49:59,760
pad pad

2918
01:50:04,390 --> 01:50:02,320
you know indefinite pairs of steps

2919
01:50:06,149 --> 01:50:04,400
turning at the foot all those things and

2920
01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:06,159
we both heard it and it was like

2921
01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:07,520
you know that's we don't we don't just

2922
01:50:11,590 --> 01:50:09,760
call the police willy-nilly we we only

2923
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:11,600
call if necessary and boy that was

2924
01:50:13,510 --> 01:50:12,719
necessary because we didn't know what it

2925
01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:13,520
was

2926
01:50:16,950 --> 01:50:14,880
but as i said

2927
01:50:18,790 --> 01:50:16,960
none of us staring at that door decided

2928
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:18,800
to walk up there and check it out i

2929
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:20,480
don't know why how about some more

2930
01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:23,040
questions here here's a good one this is

2931
01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:25,679
from our faithful poster techno mage who

2932
01:50:29,229 --> 01:50:27,360
is posting this question at the question

2933
01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:29,239
bank at our forums at

2934
01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:30,880
theparecast.com

2935
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:32,400
where you can ask questions of our

2936
01:50:36,070 --> 01:50:33,679
guests

2937
01:50:38,229 --> 01:50:36,080
and here's a good one um

2938
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,239
i know of one or two that uh that you've

2939
01:50:43,350 --> 01:50:40,480
come down on as being

2940
01:50:45,430 --> 01:50:43,360
very suggestive of something unknown but

2941
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:45,440
has there been a single picture or video

2942
01:50:49,590 --> 01:50:47,440
that you can point to where you believe

2943
01:50:51,189 --> 01:50:49,600
that you're seeing genuine unexplained

2944
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:51,199
phenomena

2945
01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:53,840
yeah i actually i have actually and

2946
01:50:56,790 --> 01:50:55,440
i think you know people might be

2947
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,800
disappointed to find out that it was

2948
01:51:02,229 --> 01:50:58,400
taken in the 50s

2949
01:51:04,149 --> 01:51:02,239
okay but it was i think in montana and a

2950
01:51:06,629 --> 01:51:04,159
father with his daughter were at a

2951
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:06,639
i believe a baseball stadium and

2952
01:51:11,669 --> 01:51:09,040
he picked up his uh

2953
01:51:13,510 --> 01:51:11,679
eight millimeter or 16 millimeter camera

2954
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:13,520
and filmed these two brilliant objects

2955
01:51:17,109 --> 01:51:15,199
traveling across the sky the video is

2956
01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:17,119
only three seconds long right the great

2957
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:19,760
falls uh montana that's right yeah you

2958
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:21,440
know that's pretty famous

2959
01:51:25,430 --> 01:51:24,320
yeah and i look at that and

2960
01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:25,440
i

2961
01:51:44,950 --> 01:51:43,119
you know that's

2962
01:51:48,310 --> 01:51:44,960
you know without further

2963
01:51:50,310 --> 01:51:48,320
scientific inquiry i can't say for sure

2964
01:51:52,390 --> 01:51:50,320
um well i keep i keep telling you go see

2965
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:52,400
ray stanford it'll uh

2966
01:51:55,990 --> 01:51:54,719
it'll last you a quotient to have real

2967
01:51:57,669 --> 01:51:56,000
real events

2968
01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:57,679
yeah you're not the only one i mean i

2969
01:52:01,750 --> 01:51:58,960
mean i've had

2970
01:52:03,830 --> 01:52:01,760
a lot of a couple of folks tell me uh to

2971
01:52:04,709 --> 01:52:03,840
go see him you know like ben moss and

2972
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:04,719
and

2973
01:52:11,510 --> 01:52:09,920
you know i i haven't i haven't done that

2974
01:52:13,589 --> 01:52:11,520
yet and i think that's only just because

2975
01:52:16,390 --> 01:52:13,599
of a timing issue you know

2976
01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:16,400
he thinks you don't like him oh that's

2977
01:52:21,910 --> 01:52:19,040
so untrue leslie kane has poisoned you

2978
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:21,920
to him oh my gosh no way

2979
01:52:25,910 --> 01:52:24,000
leslie keane you know leslie keane

2980
01:52:28,070 --> 01:52:25,920
actually came up to

2981
01:52:30,709 --> 01:52:28,080
doug studio when i was there one day

2982
01:52:32,629 --> 01:52:30,719
and she had a a piece of film for us to

2983
01:52:34,070 --> 01:52:32,639
analyze and doug and i sat and analyzed

2984
01:52:35,350 --> 01:52:34,080
it together and i had

2985
01:52:37,109 --> 01:52:35,360
i'm sitting there looking at doug and

2986
01:52:39,430 --> 01:52:37,119
i'm thinking this is so surreal

2987
01:52:41,830 --> 01:52:39,440
i'm doing you know film analysis with

2988
01:52:43,750 --> 01:52:41,840
the legendary douglas trumbull

2989
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:43,760
you know i always think

2990
01:52:48,149 --> 01:52:46,000
you know i'm always very uh

2991
01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:48,159
uh

2992
01:52:54,070 --> 01:52:51,760
i don't know what that was taken aback

2993
01:52:55,669 --> 01:52:54,080
by the fact that he's there and that i'm

2994
01:52:57,270 --> 01:52:55,679
uh

2995
01:52:59,270 --> 01:52:57,280
you know that i'm part of what he does

2996
01:53:01,430 --> 01:52:59,280
it's like wow this is incredible i can't

2997
01:53:03,030 --> 01:53:01,440
believe it i keep shaking my head

2998
01:53:05,669 --> 01:53:03,040
you know

2999
01:53:07,109 --> 01:53:05,679
so it's like so i don't know i mean i i

3000
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:07,119
have not been poisoned by anybody it's

3001
01:53:10,550 --> 01:53:09,119
just a matter of of getting to him i i

3002
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:10,560
don't doubt any

3003
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:12,400
thing he said because i haven't you know

3004
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:14,320
heard what he said i haven't heard him

3005
01:53:19,109 --> 01:53:16,800
yeah until you see um his data i mean

3006
01:53:20,790 --> 01:53:19,119
you can't pass judgment on it and you

3007
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:20,800
shouldn't yeah oh no that's not

3008
01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:22,560
scientific is it

3009
01:53:28,629 --> 01:53:23,520
no

3010
01:53:32,149 --> 01:53:30,470
yeah you can't really judge them until

3011
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:32,159
you've actually seen what they have and

3012
01:53:36,950 --> 01:53:34,480
then made a informed opinion and

3013
01:53:39,270 --> 01:53:36,960
determination on your own

3014
01:53:40,950 --> 01:53:39,280
right you know i i can't do that i

3015
01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:40,960
wouldn't do that because it's not uh

3016
01:53:43,750 --> 01:53:42,880
it's not scientific you can't make a

3017
01:53:45,669 --> 01:53:43,760
site

3018
01:53:48,149 --> 01:53:45,679
without actually seeing data to make

3019
01:53:50,390 --> 01:53:48,159
judgment on well he'll offer to pay your

3020
01:53:52,149 --> 01:53:50,400
way uh and uh

3021
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:52,159
and get you down there because he thinks

3022
01:53:57,669 --> 01:53:54,719
it's important enough for you and uh

3023
01:53:59,910 --> 01:53:57,679
doug to see so just keep that in mind

3024
01:54:01,910 --> 01:53:59,920
all right where's he again i forgot he's

3025
01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:01,920
right outside the beltway in in berwin

3026
01:54:05,589 --> 01:54:04,400
heights uh college park of maryland okay

3027
01:54:08,229 --> 01:54:05,599
okay

3028
01:54:09,669 --> 01:54:08,239
all right well i'm skipping a jump yeah

3029
01:54:11,189 --> 01:54:09,679
it's actually not far i used to actually

3030
01:54:12,390 --> 01:54:11,199
drive to i didn't i didn't realize that

3031
01:54:15,589 --> 01:54:12,400
i thought for some reason he was out in

3032
01:54:17,189 --> 01:54:15,599
new mexico no no no no

3033
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:17,199
right down 95.

3034
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:18,960
okay because i drive back and forth to

3035
01:54:23,750 --> 01:54:21,440
washington you know in one day

3036
01:54:25,750 --> 01:54:23,760
you know when i go down exactly

3037
01:54:27,990 --> 01:54:25,760
you know i do that at least five hours

3038
01:54:29,270 --> 01:54:28,000
each way you need a couple three days to

3039
01:54:30,709 --> 01:54:29,280
visit ray

3040
01:54:32,790 --> 01:54:30,719
all right yeah well

3041
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:32,800
i i would certainly do that and you can

3042
01:54:37,109 --> 01:54:34,880
stay at the watergate

3043
01:54:39,109 --> 01:54:37,119
yes that'd be part of a scandal again

3044
01:54:40,629 --> 01:54:39,119
that'd be great that she could stand

3045
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:40,639
raised right next to his recording

3046
01:54:44,390 --> 01:54:42,960
magnetometer

3047
01:54:46,229 --> 01:54:44,400
yeah i think which he keeps in this

3048
01:54:48,229 --> 01:54:46,239
guest bedroom i'll give you the weird

3049
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:48,239
story though weeks before the break-in

3050
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:50,080
of the watergate

3051
01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:52,480
i stayed at the watergate because my

3052
01:54:55,430 --> 01:54:54,080
uncle lived there

3053
01:54:57,109 --> 01:54:55,440
wow

3054
01:54:58,229 --> 01:54:57,119
so the watergate was actually a

3055
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:58,239
residence

3056
01:55:03,589 --> 01:55:00,719
place as well uh residents watergate was

3057
01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:03,599
i think condominiums and hotels

3058
01:55:07,270 --> 01:55:05,760
okay gotcha

3059
01:55:09,030 --> 01:55:07,280
wow

3060
01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:09,040
i think that that's they tore that down

3061
01:55:13,030 --> 01:55:10,320
right

3062
01:55:14,470 --> 01:55:13,040
then they tear the water still there

3063
01:55:16,149 --> 01:55:14,480
last time i checked

3064
01:55:18,070 --> 01:55:16,159
it was a weird it was like a round

3065
01:55:20,070 --> 01:55:18,080
building kind of like a semi-circular

3066
01:55:21,910 --> 01:55:20,080
building right on the potomac if i

3067
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:21,920
remember yeah

3068
01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:23,440
you know when i was a i was an intern in

3069
01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:24,480
washington

3070
01:55:28,870 --> 01:55:26,719
and one of my jobs as an intern was i

3071
01:55:29,990 --> 01:55:28,880
actually had to go out and brief the cia

3072
01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:30,000
director

3073
01:55:33,589 --> 01:55:31,280
on uh

3074
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:33,599
you know different things and

3075
01:55:37,430 --> 01:55:35,119
you know when i hear

3076
01:55:39,270 --> 01:55:37,440
folks like you know stephen greer saying

3077
01:55:41,430 --> 01:55:39,280
you know well i you know i had a meeting

3078
01:55:43,669 --> 01:55:41,440
with james woolsey you know and i

3079
01:55:44,470 --> 01:55:43,679
briefed the cia director and all that

3080
01:55:46,629 --> 01:55:44,480
uh

3081
01:55:48,149 --> 01:55:46,639
and then woolsey responds with a letter

3082
01:55:49,589 --> 01:55:48,159
i'm saying this for a reason willie

3083
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:49,599
responds with a letter saying you write

3084
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:51,520
a dinner party pal that was no meeting

3085
01:55:55,270 --> 01:55:53,280
that was no briefing you know stop

3086
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,280
stretching the truth you know i said

3087
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:57,520
that well you know using the same

3088
01:56:01,830 --> 01:55:59,520
reasoning i guess i could say that

3089
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:01,840
um you know i briefed the cia director

3090
01:56:05,589 --> 01:56:03,760
too many times

3091
01:56:07,270 --> 01:56:05,599
does that mean that i'm in the know no

3092
01:56:09,350 --> 01:56:07,280
it means it was my job and i was an

3093
01:56:10,790 --> 01:56:09,360
intern and i didn't want to go we shot

3094
01:56:12,310 --> 01:56:10,800
we drew lots for it because he was going

3095
01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:12,320
to have to go do it

3096
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:13,280
you know because we didn't want to go

3097
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out there you know it was a pain so you

3098
01:56:20,229 --> 01:56:17,360
know

3099
01:56:21,990 --> 01:56:20,239
um i guess it's all in in when you talk

3100
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about people and their data and

3101
01:56:25,990 --> 01:56:24,320
believability you know

3102
01:56:26,830 --> 01:56:26,000
you have to remember that this has

3103
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become

3104
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a fashionable

3105
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arena to be in you know you can ask stan

3106
01:56:35,830 --> 01:56:33,520
romanek how fashionable it became with

3107
01:56:37,910 --> 01:56:35,840
his his fakery

3108
01:56:39,589 --> 01:56:37,920
he was caught twice faking blatant

3109
01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:39,599
faking you know blatant he was throwing

3110
01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:41,040
things at his face

3111
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:42,639
on a video and it's clear and you can

3112
01:56:46,310 --> 01:56:43,840
see him do it

3113
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:46,320
and it's like wow and i i caught him

3114
01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:47,920
faking on a

3115
01:56:54,629 --> 01:56:51,360
open minds show with alejandro rojas i

3116
01:56:56,149 --> 01:56:54,639
caught him faking uh a a voice box

3117
01:56:58,790 --> 01:56:56,159
system

3118
01:57:00,629 --> 01:56:58,800
he was queuing up the tape yes you could

3119
01:57:02,229 --> 01:57:00,639
hear him chewing up the tape on one of

3120
01:57:03,830 --> 01:57:02,239
the breaks when he thought his mic was

3121
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:03,840
turned down you can hear you should

3122
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:05,440
really you should really you know they

3123
01:57:08,550 --> 01:57:06,880
were starting in the background what's

3124
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that and then when you place it six

3125
01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:09,920
minutes later you hear you should really

3126
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learn to keep your mouth shut and i went

3127
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home stan you little liar

3128
01:57:18,149 --> 01:57:16,560
you know i think we can say you stan you

3129
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little idiot

3130
01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:20,239
for being such a fool but the problem is

3131
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here is that people believe him and that

3132
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really disturbs me even this guy we had

3133
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a couple of weeks back we did a show on

3134
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presidents and ufos and grant cameron i

3135
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learned later believes him mark

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d'antonio joins us he doesn't believe

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him

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yes we did a little bit of rabbit holing

3240
02:02:17,589 --> 02:02:15,520
in the previous segment with mark

3241
02:02:19,109 --> 02:02:17,599
d'antonio and jean and chris

3242
02:02:21,990 --> 02:02:19,119
and when you get into someone a

3243
02:02:23,750 --> 02:02:22,000
character like a stan romanek well i'm

3244
02:02:27,030 --> 02:02:23,760
more worried about his legal problems

3245
02:02:28,070 --> 02:02:27,040
than his fakery of ufo cases that's more

3246
02:02:30,070 --> 02:02:28,080
serious

3247
02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:30,080
it is when i don't i don't discuss that

3248
02:02:34,629 --> 02:02:32,560
he has a right to uh defense and i

3249
02:02:36,550 --> 02:02:34,639
i won't even you know address any of

3250
02:02:38,310 --> 02:02:36,560
that stuff until he has his day in court

3251
02:02:39,270 --> 02:02:38,320
with all that i bet it wouldn't be fair

3252
02:02:41,109 --> 02:02:39,280
i wouldn't want anyone to do it to me

3253
02:02:43,750 --> 02:02:41,119
you know sure and i think it's important

3254
02:02:45,750 --> 02:02:43,760
to keep that off the grid until a

3255
02:02:47,510 --> 02:02:45,760
resolution is found and determined it

3256
02:02:49,990 --> 02:02:47,520
seems the credible

3257
02:02:52,070 --> 02:02:50,000
ufo pictures tend to be old

3258
02:02:54,390 --> 02:02:52,080
we're not seeing them recently or am i

3259
02:02:58,070 --> 02:02:54,400
wrong are there recent

3260
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movies photos recent movie photos

3261
02:03:03,109 --> 02:03:01,520
whatever about ufos with ufos that are

3262
02:03:05,189 --> 02:03:03,119
i'm talking about recent like the last

3263
02:03:07,270 --> 02:03:05,199
five ten years that look compelling to

3264
02:03:09,030 --> 02:03:07,280
you okay i'll say this in one short

3265
02:03:11,589 --> 02:03:09,040
answer no

3266
02:03:14,310 --> 02:03:11,599
and i will now explain that

3267
02:03:16,229 --> 02:03:14,320
everyone has a cell phone and people are

3268
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learning how to do computer generated

3269
02:03:21,589 --> 02:03:18,880
imagery cg very easily they learn it in

3270
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college as part of their training to

3271
02:03:25,830 --> 02:03:24,080
become animators

3272
02:03:27,669 --> 02:03:25,840
and they

3273
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are also

3274
02:03:32,629 --> 02:03:30,159
able to take video and

3275
02:03:34,149 --> 02:03:32,639
do all kinds of video effects like your

3276
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iphone you can

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download an app to throw a ufo and a

3278
02:03:38,629 --> 02:03:37,280
photo if you want

3279
02:03:40,070 --> 02:03:38,639
you know it's like

3280
02:03:41,669 --> 02:03:40,080
we now know what all those ufos look

3281
02:03:43,030 --> 02:03:41,679
like so we're like you okay right we

3282
02:03:44,310 --> 02:03:43,040
don't even spend more than two minutes

3283
02:03:46,310 --> 02:03:44,320
on and say yep

3284
02:03:47,430 --> 02:03:46,320
throw that away next next next we just

3285
02:03:49,510 --> 02:03:47,440
get rid of it

3286
02:03:50,390 --> 02:03:49,520
you know it takes time and effort to go

3287
02:03:51,109 --> 02:03:50,400
through

3288
02:03:52,950 --> 02:03:51,119
and

3289
02:03:54,310 --> 02:03:52,960
categorize all these things

3290
02:03:55,430 --> 02:03:54,320
and then there's natural things that

3291
02:03:58,390 --> 02:03:55,440
happen too

3292
02:03:59,910 --> 02:03:58,400
water drops on a security camera housing

3293
02:04:01,109 --> 02:03:59,920
can look really strange because they

3294
02:04:02,070 --> 02:04:01,119
look like they have a shadow on the

3295
02:04:03,910 --> 02:04:02,080
bottom

3296
02:04:07,510 --> 02:04:03,920
which is actually the refracted image of

3297
02:04:08,310 --> 02:04:07,520
the land down below and the sky up above

3298
02:04:10,390 --> 02:04:08,320
and

3299
02:04:12,709 --> 02:04:10,400
you know i did a water drop study to

3300
02:04:15,669 --> 02:04:12,719
show how drops look at different angles

3301
02:04:17,350 --> 02:04:15,679
from the camera and you can see how the

3302
02:04:19,109 --> 02:04:17,360
at a certain point the

3303
02:04:21,109 --> 02:04:19,119
ground on the bottom shifts to the top

3304
02:04:22,470 --> 02:04:21,119
you know as the refraction takes over

3305
02:04:24,790 --> 02:04:22,480
and when you shift the camera up and

3306
02:04:26,870 --> 02:04:24,800
down on the drop so you have to go

3307
02:04:29,270 --> 02:04:26,880
through some science in order to start

3308
02:04:31,350 --> 02:04:29,280
to decipher all these things i found

3309
02:04:33,510 --> 02:04:31,360
that in all the imagery that i've seen

3310
02:04:35,430 --> 02:04:33,520
all the movies that i've seen i see that

3311
02:04:38,550 --> 02:04:35,440
there's a lot of things happening that

3312
02:04:40,470 --> 02:04:38,560
relate to the human condition meaning

3313
02:04:43,030 --> 02:04:40,480
when we look at

3314
02:04:44,950 --> 02:04:43,040
orange orbs up in the sky i know that

3315
02:04:46,629 --> 02:04:44,960
you know many times people will just

3316
02:04:48,310 --> 02:04:46,639
jump at it and say oh those are chinese

3317
02:04:50,629 --> 02:04:48,320
lanterns well sometimes they really are

3318
02:04:51,750 --> 02:04:50,639
chinese lanterns there are cases where

3319
02:04:53,109 --> 02:04:51,760
they're not

3320
02:04:55,669 --> 02:04:53,119
and there are people that have started

3321
02:04:58,149 --> 02:04:55,679
an orange orb study and we're going to

3322
02:05:00,470 --> 02:04:58,159
hear from them at the mufun conference

3323
02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:00,480
in orlando this year i'm doing uh

3324
02:05:04,870 --> 02:05:02,800
training for several hours i'm training

3325
02:05:06,229 --> 02:05:04,880
people down there on image and video

3326
02:05:08,149 --> 02:05:06,239
analysis we're going to go through a lot

3327
02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:08,159
of things and we're going to create our

3328
02:05:12,390 --> 02:05:09,760
own orbs using

3329
02:05:14,709 --> 02:05:12,400
uh you know a technique that i've

3330
02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:14,719
come up with to illustrate how the

3331
02:05:19,270 --> 02:05:17,920
photographic error version of an orb

3332
02:05:20,790 --> 02:05:19,280
shows up

3333
02:05:23,510 --> 02:05:20,800
and then there's going to be someone

3334
02:05:25,510 --> 02:05:23,520
talking about the orange orb program

3335
02:05:27,030 --> 02:05:25,520
and before you jump to the conclusion

3336
02:05:28,870 --> 02:05:27,040
saying well they're all you know they're

3337
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:28,880
all chinese lanterns

3338
02:05:33,189 --> 02:05:31,199
science says that we can't make that we

3339
02:05:35,589 --> 02:05:33,199
can't jump to that conclusion because we

3340
02:05:37,669 --> 02:05:35,599
don't have any enough data to know if

3341
02:05:39,910 --> 02:05:37,679
there is other data that's

3342
02:05:41,350 --> 02:05:39,920
pending that shows people that who also

3343
02:05:43,030 --> 02:05:41,360
know of chinese lanterns that these are

3344
02:05:44,790 --> 02:05:43,040
not chinese lanterns

3345
02:05:46,550 --> 02:05:44,800
then we should be able to you know

3346
02:05:48,709 --> 02:05:46,560
examine that data and so that's what i'm

3347
02:05:50,550 --> 02:05:48,719
waiting for on that but

3348
02:05:51,669 --> 02:05:50,560
there are some orange orb sightings

3349
02:05:52,790 --> 02:05:51,679
which might

3350
02:05:54,149 --> 02:05:52,800
be

3351
02:05:56,070 --> 02:05:54,159
compelling

3352
02:05:58,790 --> 02:05:56,080
i haven't seen them yet

3353
02:06:00,830 --> 02:05:58,800
i haven't seen any videos that show

3354
02:06:03,910 --> 02:06:00,840
anything other than the

3355
02:06:06,149 --> 02:06:03,920
plethora of cg fakery

3356
02:06:08,149 --> 02:06:06,159
uh and stuff from the known hoaxers out

3357
02:06:10,470 --> 02:06:08,159
there i mean we compile a list of the

3358
02:06:12,149 --> 02:06:10,480
known hoaxers and we just

3359
02:06:14,709 --> 02:06:12,159
you know readily negate

3360
02:06:16,790 --> 02:06:14,719
any publishing of any videos that come

3361
02:06:19,030 --> 02:06:16,800
from these known guys because you know

3362
02:06:20,790 --> 02:06:19,040
they're you click on their link and

3363
02:06:23,350 --> 02:06:20,800
they're making money

3364
02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:23,360
now my son has a youtube account with

3365
02:06:27,189 --> 02:06:24,880
his friends and

3366
02:06:28,709 --> 02:06:27,199
he's going into film school and

3367
02:06:30,390 --> 02:06:28,719
they have over 7 million hits on their

3368
02:06:32,950 --> 02:06:30,400
youtube channel they don't do fakery

3369
02:06:34,950 --> 02:06:32,960
they do funny videos of their own unique

3370
02:06:36,470 --> 02:06:34,960
creation now i'm not plugging it or

3371
02:06:38,149 --> 02:06:36,480
anything but i'm just saying

3372
02:06:39,350 --> 02:06:38,159
when you click on their video

3373
02:06:40,870 --> 02:06:39,360
they're getting money they've made

3374
02:06:43,270 --> 02:06:40,880
thousands from google

3375
02:06:45,910 --> 02:06:43,280
through this okay and and they use the

3376
02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:45,920
google adsense program to get revenue

3377
02:06:49,589 --> 02:06:47,440
well these hoaxers are doing the same

3378
02:06:51,669 --> 02:06:49,599
thing and i calculated the revenue on

3379
02:06:52,709 --> 02:06:51,679
this one video that would make in the

3380
02:06:54,069 --> 02:06:52,719
rounds i'm not even going to tell you

3381
02:06:56,069 --> 02:06:54,079
what it is but i do not want to give

3382
02:06:56,870 --> 02:06:56,079
them any kind of clicks

3383
02:07:00,149 --> 02:06:56,880
and

3384
02:07:01,350 --> 02:07:00,159
i found that these hoaxers doing cg

3385
02:07:02,950 --> 02:07:01,360
hoaxing

3386
02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:02,960
on this one video that was published at

3387
02:07:08,149 --> 02:07:05,040
the end of may they had already

3388
02:07:09,910 --> 02:07:08,159
made 3 500 on that one video and they

3389
02:07:11,270 --> 02:07:09,920
have hundreds of videos

3390
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:11,280
so that's how they're making their

3391
02:07:15,030 --> 02:07:12,960
living you know what i think that

3392
02:07:17,990 --> 02:07:15,040
they're preying on the innocent and they

3393
02:07:19,189 --> 02:07:18,000
are also preying on people who want to

3394
02:07:20,709 --> 02:07:19,199
believe

3395
02:07:23,030 --> 02:07:20,719
and they're

3396
02:07:24,310 --> 02:07:23,040
clouding the issue this the clouding the

3397
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:24,320
science

3398
02:07:29,270 --> 02:07:26,800
uh that really should be ufology they're

3399
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:29,280
keeping the tinfoil hats on us

3400
02:07:33,750 --> 02:07:30,960
it sounds to me like they've so

3401
02:07:35,830 --> 02:07:33,760
contaminated the pool of evidence

3402
02:07:38,149 --> 02:07:35,840
that's almost impossible to find

3403
02:07:40,310 --> 02:07:38,159
something there that might be worth it

3404
02:07:42,709 --> 02:07:40,320
yes except that i don't always view a

3405
02:07:44,149 --> 02:07:42,719
video as a hoax when i see it except

3406
02:07:46,390 --> 02:07:44,159
from these guys i mean they're they're

3407
02:07:47,830 --> 02:07:46,400
always hoaxes they're never real and i

3408
02:07:51,270 --> 02:07:47,840
can say that with

3409
02:07:52,629 --> 02:07:51,280
certain twins that shall not be named

3410
02:07:55,430 --> 02:07:52,639
you got it

3411
02:07:57,109 --> 02:07:55,440
we had one of them on the show

3412
02:07:58,310 --> 02:07:57,119
and we tried to hold his feet to the

3413
02:08:00,950 --> 02:07:58,320
fire

3414
02:08:01,750 --> 02:08:00,960
and chris actually tried to be helpful

3415
02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:01,760
but

3416
02:08:07,030 --> 02:08:04,639
that guy was hearing none of it no no no

3417
02:08:08,629 --> 02:08:07,040
because he's making money on you he's

3418
02:08:09,910 --> 02:08:08,639
making money his appearance made him

3419
02:08:11,510 --> 02:08:09,920
money

3420
02:08:13,830 --> 02:08:11,520
holding their feet to the fire doesn't

3421
02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:13,840
work okay we need better tools and

3422
02:08:16,229 --> 02:08:14,719
that's

3423
02:08:18,709 --> 02:08:16,239
what we're developing

3424
02:08:21,109 --> 02:08:18,719
i've haven't stopped learning i'm always

3425
02:08:23,189 --> 02:08:21,119
learning new tricks i actually

3426
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:23,199
right now if i get a shaky cell phone

3427
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:24,400
video

3428
02:08:29,669 --> 02:08:27,040
last year i couldn't do this but now i

3429
02:08:31,189 --> 02:08:29,679
can because i've i've learned how to do

3430
02:08:33,109 --> 02:08:31,199
this and i've bought the appropriate

3431
02:08:34,709 --> 02:08:33,119
applications to do it

3432
02:08:36,629 --> 02:08:34,719
i have a system where i can actually

3433
02:08:39,350 --> 02:08:36,639
take any shaky video and make it a rock

3434
02:08:41,189 --> 02:08:39,360
solid object you know show it as a rock

3435
02:08:42,790 --> 02:08:41,199
solid object and the borders around you

3436
02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:42,800
might go flipping all over the place but

3437
02:08:45,910 --> 02:08:44,400
the object itself

3438
02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:45,920
is moving steady it's called

3439
02:08:50,950 --> 02:08:48,400
stabilization yeah it's a simple it's a

3440
02:08:53,030 --> 02:08:50,960
simple thing it's been out for years but

3441
02:08:54,069 --> 02:08:53,040
it was hard to apply it to something

3442
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:54,079
like a

3443
02:08:58,950 --> 02:08:56,719
object in the sky in a dark sky

3444
02:09:01,030 --> 02:08:58,960
well mark all i can say is

3445
02:09:02,229 --> 02:09:01,040
if you want to like burn right through

3446
02:09:04,790 --> 02:09:02,239
the dross

3447
02:09:07,750 --> 02:09:04,800
and get to some good old analog

3448
02:09:10,229 --> 02:09:07,760
film images that present a whole new set

3449
02:09:13,669 --> 02:09:10,239
of of solutions and problems at the same

3450
02:09:16,709 --> 02:09:13,679
time but but totally negates uh all the

3451
02:09:19,510 --> 02:09:16,719
the video uh chicanery uh that's been

3452
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:19,520
going on uh stuff back from the 70s uh

3453
02:09:23,350 --> 02:09:21,760
back from the 60s uh if you really want

3454
02:09:24,550 --> 02:09:23,360
to take a look at some good stuff you

3455
02:09:26,310 --> 02:09:24,560
know where to go

3456
02:09:28,069 --> 02:09:26,320
i would really urge you

3457
02:09:30,870 --> 02:09:28,079
if you're interested in getting yourself

3458
02:09:34,149 --> 02:09:30,880
up to speed on some time compression

3459
02:09:36,629 --> 02:09:34,159
artifacts ghost imaging some real

3460
02:09:38,310 --> 02:09:36,639
groundbreaking scientific principles

3461
02:09:39,990 --> 02:09:38,320
that are being

3462
02:09:42,629 --> 02:09:40,000
ascertained and

3463
02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:42,639
analyzed and presented to some pretty uh

3464
02:09:47,510 --> 02:09:44,560
pretty important people out of goddard

3465
02:09:49,830 --> 02:09:47,520
you know where to go yeah i'm familiar

3466
02:09:52,149 --> 02:09:49,840
with uh you know the ghost imaging stuff

3467
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:52,159
in fact i actually uh part of my

3468
02:09:55,750 --> 02:09:54,400
training down in orlando was gonna touch

3469
02:09:57,589 --> 02:09:55,760
on that a little bit

3470
02:09:58,629 --> 02:09:57,599
but i think that the the most important

3471
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:58,639
thing

3472
02:10:00,470 --> 02:09:59,520
is

3473
02:10:02,790 --> 02:10:00,480
for me

3474
02:10:04,870 --> 02:10:02,800
i'm looking to the future because we're

3475
02:10:07,109 --> 02:10:04,880
not going to prove that

3476
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:07,119
from yesterday backwards we're not going

3477
02:10:11,350 --> 02:10:08,400
to prove that

3478
02:10:12,390 --> 02:10:11,360
alien extraterrestrial civilizations are

3479
02:10:15,189 --> 02:10:12,400
here

3480
02:10:17,189 --> 02:10:15,199
using yesterday's data on back through

3481
02:10:19,430 --> 02:10:17,199
history i think it's interesting i think

3482
02:10:21,270 --> 02:10:19,440
it has merit to examine i think it can

3483
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:21,280
add some interesting feel to the fire

3484
02:10:25,669 --> 02:10:23,520
and i'll never stop looking at it

3485
02:10:27,669 --> 02:10:25,679
but i think that the proof comes from

3486
02:10:29,189 --> 02:10:27,679
new data that we're going to have to you

3487
02:10:31,669 --> 02:10:29,199
know get

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3571
02:13:53,669 --> 02:13:51,520
today i became a bio photon woman i put

3572
02:13:56,069 --> 02:13:53,679
a tablespoon of the andreas five seed

3573
02:13:58,310 --> 02:13:56,079
oil in my morning one world way drink

3574
02:14:00,709 --> 02:13:58,320
and was still happy and energized at 3

3575
02:14:02,629 --> 02:14:00,719
pm normally i feel tired and spacey at

3576
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:02,639
the end of the day but today i felt

3577
02:14:06,790 --> 02:14:04,800
energy and very clear my friend at the

3578
02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:06,800
farmer's market asked what i was on she

3579
02:14:10,229 --> 02:14:08,480
said my eyes looked bright and i had

3580
02:14:12,390 --> 02:14:10,239
unusual energy for that time of

3581
02:14:14,629 --> 02:14:12,400
afternoon i told her there was a magical

3582
02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:14,639
oil that enabled my body to absorb the

3583
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:16,719
sun's energy as if i were a plant she

3584
02:14:21,669 --> 02:14:19,760
said i want some a second one worldwide

3585
02:14:23,510 --> 02:14:21,679
shake with the oil when i got home took

3586
02:14:26,069 --> 02:14:23,520
me to bedtime with that wonderful

3587
02:14:28,470 --> 02:14:26,079
abundant energy i couldn't believe how

3588
02:14:30,550 --> 02:14:28,480
much i got done and how great i felt the

3589
02:14:32,709 --> 02:14:30,560
combination of one world way and five

3590
02:14:34,870 --> 02:14:32,719
seed oil produce a significant health

3591
02:14:36,629 --> 02:14:34,880
event in my life the kind that makes you

3592
02:14:39,669 --> 02:14:36,639
feel you've been given your life back

3593
02:14:41,910 --> 02:14:39,679
with a bonus and i'm 64. five seed oil

3594
02:14:50,910 --> 02:14:41,920
in one world way for your fantastic

3595
02:14:58,470 --> 02:14:55,990
[Music]

3596
02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:58,480
this is jerome clark author of the ufo

3597
02:15:02,090 --> 02:15:00,560
encyclopedia in other books you're

3598
02:15:06,550 --> 02:15:02,100
listening to the peercast

3599
02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:08,950
so we move on the last two segments

3600
02:15:13,270 --> 02:15:11,520
trying to look at photographic evidence

3601
02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:13,280
let me ask you a general

3602
02:15:17,510 --> 02:15:15,520
question here which may be as important

3603
02:15:19,510 --> 02:15:17,520
as evaluating the evidence

3604
02:15:21,750 --> 02:15:19,520
everybody's got the smartphone every one

3605
02:15:24,069 --> 02:15:21,760
of those smartphones is escapable or

3606
02:15:27,270 --> 02:15:24,079
most of them are capable of taking

3607
02:15:29,109 --> 02:15:27,280
videos some are capable of 4k videos

3608
02:15:31,270 --> 02:15:29,119
yes all right

3609
02:15:33,830 --> 02:15:31,280
what should people know

3610
02:15:35,189 --> 02:15:33,840
if they see something strange to get an

3611
02:15:37,910 --> 02:15:35,199
image that's

3612
02:15:39,589 --> 02:15:37,920
at least useful in terms of evidence

3613
02:15:41,990 --> 02:15:39,599
okay what people should know is that

3614
02:15:44,149 --> 02:15:42,000
they can't be human anymore

3615
02:15:46,149 --> 02:15:44,159
i mean that's ridiculous i know

3616
02:15:48,550 --> 02:15:46,159
but the first thing people do when they

3617
02:15:51,189 --> 02:15:48,560
see something in the sky is they they

3618
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:51,199
stare at it they do nothing

3619
02:15:56,550 --> 02:15:54,880
and they go wha is that and in that time

3620
02:15:58,790 --> 02:15:56,560
they should have an instinctive reaction

3621
02:16:00,950 --> 02:15:58,800
to pull out their phone lean against the

3622
02:16:03,109 --> 02:16:00,960
tree lean against anything

3623
02:16:04,870 --> 02:16:03,119
don't try to follow in the sky if it's

3624
02:16:07,109 --> 02:16:04,880
if it's if it's relatively slow moving

3625
02:16:09,910 --> 02:16:07,119
stabilize your body against the wall or

3626
02:16:12,069 --> 02:16:09,920
against the tree or against yourself

3627
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:12,079
and take a deep breath in and let it out

3628
02:16:17,030 --> 02:16:15,119
slowly as you film it okay and now

3629
02:16:19,830 --> 02:16:17,040
that's the best possibility for

3630
02:16:21,189 --> 02:16:19,840
attaining some usable footage

3631
02:16:23,109 --> 02:16:21,199
now

3632
02:16:24,229 --> 02:16:23,119
image stabilization as we talked about

3633
02:16:27,109 --> 02:16:24,239
before

3634
02:16:28,950 --> 02:16:27,119
image stabilization is good but it's

3635
02:16:31,430 --> 02:16:28,960
modifying the data

3636
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:31,440
it's altering the data because it's

3637
02:16:35,589 --> 02:16:32,800
taking

3638
02:16:36,389 --> 02:16:35,599
film you know a video and it's re-saving

3639
02:16:41,230 --> 02:16:36,399
it

3640
02:16:43,990 --> 02:16:41,240
so ideally we want

3641
02:16:46,070 --> 02:16:44,000
uncompromised video in any way and

3642
02:16:48,070 --> 02:16:46,080
stabilize video may look nice and smooth

3643
02:16:50,070 --> 02:16:48,080
in the sky and it is helpful

3644
02:16:51,589 --> 02:16:50,080
by long shot

3645
02:16:52,950 --> 02:16:51,599
but it's removing

3646
02:16:55,349 --> 02:16:52,960
workable data

3647
02:16:56,150 --> 02:16:55,359
from our analysis and that's something

3648
02:16:59,030 --> 02:16:56,160
that

3649
02:17:01,030 --> 02:16:59,040
you know would be countered with

3650
02:17:02,629 --> 02:17:01,040
a fully image stabilized phone for

3651
02:17:03,589 --> 02:17:02,639
instance and there is no such thing at

3652
02:17:07,030 --> 02:17:03,599
the moment

3653
02:17:09,110 --> 02:17:07,040
um i have the uh nikon p900 camera which

3654
02:17:11,589 --> 02:17:09,120
i just bought and if you've seen any of

3655
02:17:13,509 --> 02:17:11,599
my posts on facebook you can see that

3656
02:17:15,509 --> 02:17:13,519
you know i i saw

3657
02:17:18,150 --> 02:17:15,519
uh a plane that was

3658
02:17:20,950 --> 02:17:18,160
six miles away and i used the adsb data

3659
02:17:22,150 --> 02:17:20,960
from the plane to confirm this is 8 800

3660
02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:22,160
feet in the air

3661
02:17:27,190 --> 02:17:25,040
and i zoomed in with my camera handheld

3662
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:27,200
and the p900 is what's called a super

3663
02:17:30,629 --> 02:17:28,479
zoom camera

3664
02:17:32,070 --> 02:17:30,639
i zoomed in so close

3665
02:17:33,910 --> 02:17:32,080
to that plane and took several

3666
02:17:36,469 --> 02:17:33,920
successive photos of it

3667
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:36,479
i could see the pilot flying the plane

3668
02:17:41,349 --> 02:17:39,040
without any problem the plane was sharp

3669
02:17:43,750 --> 02:17:41,359
and it was clear you could even read in

3670
02:17:46,389 --> 02:17:43,760
that fine little font underneath the

3671
02:17:48,150 --> 02:17:46,399
entry door the world on time it was a

3672
02:17:50,950 --> 02:17:48,160
fedex plane

3673
02:17:54,230 --> 02:17:50,960
and that was six miles away

3674
02:17:56,389 --> 02:17:54,240
all right at 8 800 feet so

3675
02:17:59,349 --> 02:17:56,399
i think we're going down the path where

3676
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:59,359
the technology is going to give people

3677
02:18:01,429 --> 02:18:00,719
the option

3678
02:18:02,469 --> 02:18:01,439
to

3679
02:18:06,150 --> 02:18:02,479
capture

3680
02:18:08,549 --> 02:18:06,160
usable data even when they're

3681
02:18:10,709 --> 02:18:08,559
excited and in a panic because the p900

3682
02:18:12,709 --> 02:18:10,719
at that full telephoto length

3683
02:18:14,309 --> 02:18:12,719
could never hold an object in you know

3684
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:14,319
in the in there without any kind of

3685
02:18:19,750 --> 02:18:15,679
stabilization

3686
02:18:22,230 --> 02:18:19,760
it's stabilizing the image on the camera

3687
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:22,240
sensor and it's also stabilizing the

3688
02:18:27,589 --> 02:18:25,120
image via the lens and what the lens is

3689
02:18:30,230 --> 02:18:27,599
producing so it's a dual stabilization

3690
02:18:32,870 --> 02:18:30,240
well i don't see that as a stumbling

3691
02:18:34,629 --> 02:18:32,880
block to say a future smartphone being

3692
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:34,639
able to do the same thing we have to

3693
02:18:38,870 --> 02:18:36,960
create technology to help us down the

3694
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:38,880
line and as i said i'm always looking to

3695
02:18:43,270 --> 02:18:40,960
the future but i'm not going to stop

3696
02:18:44,309 --> 02:18:43,280
looking at the present or the past

3697
02:18:46,389 --> 02:18:44,319
because

3698
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:46,399
for me it's it's all very very

3699
02:18:49,830 --> 02:18:48,399
fascinating evidence and

3700
02:18:51,270 --> 02:18:49,840
you know who knows there might be

3701
02:18:52,469 --> 02:18:51,280
something buried in there that has been

3702
02:18:55,589 --> 02:18:52,479
overlooked

3703
02:18:57,830 --> 02:18:55,599
okay this advanced optical stabilization

3704
02:19:00,309 --> 02:18:57,840
that might make it more possible for

3705
02:19:01,110 --> 02:19:00,319
fakers to do stuff but just referring to

3706
02:19:03,750 --> 02:19:01,120
that

3707
02:19:06,389 --> 02:19:03,760
apple has one model now it does optical

3708
02:19:08,150 --> 02:19:06,399
image stabilization the iphone 6s plus

3709
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:08,160
the iphone 6

3710
02:19:13,030 --> 02:19:11,200
6s not yet but maybe this coming fall

3711
02:19:15,509 --> 02:19:13,040
with an iphone 7.

3712
02:19:17,830 --> 02:19:15,519
so my iphone doesn't have

3713
02:19:18,870 --> 02:19:17,840
optical image stabilization and has

3714
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:18,880
digital

3715
02:19:22,709 --> 02:19:20,719
which means it's

3716
02:19:24,549 --> 02:19:22,719
too much trickery i guess right

3717
02:19:26,870 --> 02:19:24,559
well actually see the difference between

3718
02:19:28,389 --> 02:19:26,880
that is the the optical you know the

3719
02:19:29,910 --> 02:19:28,399
difference i'm sure but i'll just say it

3720
02:19:32,629 --> 02:19:29,920
because i think we're talking about it

3721
02:19:34,709 --> 02:19:32,639
right the optical image stabilization is

3722
02:19:36,549 --> 02:19:34,719
accomplished via the lenses

3723
02:19:38,150 --> 02:19:36,559
all right the digital image

3724
02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:38,160
stabilization is accomplished at the

3725
02:19:41,509 --> 02:19:40,240
sensor right where it's actually

3726
02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:41,519
altering

3727
02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:43,439
how the image appears on the sensor

3728
02:19:48,230 --> 02:19:45,280
based on the movement on the sensor that

3729
02:19:50,550 --> 02:19:48,240
it's calculating and so it can actually

3730
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:50,560
put the object more in the center

3731
02:19:55,270 --> 02:19:53,120
the p900 for instance will you know at

3732
02:19:57,510 --> 02:19:55,280
full zoom as 2000 millimeters that's

3733
02:19:59,349 --> 02:19:57,520
like having a fairly powerful telescope

3734
02:20:01,270 --> 02:19:59,359
at your depaul disposal

3735
02:20:02,550 --> 02:20:01,280
at 2 000 millimeters

3736
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:02,560
focal length

3737
02:20:07,030 --> 02:20:04,720
i could hold with my two hands i could

3738
02:20:09,429 --> 02:20:07,040
hold the camera on the plane at full

3739
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:09,439
zoom and and track it and take

3740
02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:11,280
successive pictures of it

3741
02:20:15,510 --> 02:20:13,920
now if i cough it's gone and i have to

3742
02:20:17,429 --> 02:20:15,520
zoom back out and reacquire because it's

3743
02:20:19,429 --> 02:20:17,439
it's not perfect

3744
02:20:21,429 --> 02:20:19,439
and if i'm moving gross

3745
02:20:23,910 --> 02:20:21,439
distance movements then of course it'll

3746
02:20:27,110 --> 02:20:23,920
be lost because it can't do everything

3747
02:20:29,590 --> 02:20:27,120
but within a range it can handle it and

3748
02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:29,600
i think that what we'll see is digital

3749
02:20:34,389 --> 02:20:32,080
image stabilization first for the

3750
02:20:36,710 --> 02:20:34,399
cell phones optical stabilization

3751
02:20:38,230 --> 02:20:36,720
requires lenses that do things and i

3752
02:20:40,870 --> 02:20:38,240
don't think we're at that point yet for

3753
02:20:43,429 --> 02:20:40,880
these phones well the iphone 6s plus

3754
02:20:45,510 --> 02:20:43,439
does optical image stabilization

3755
02:20:47,910 --> 02:20:45,520
do we have that yes we do from apple

3756
02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:47,920
it's been out already you can buy it now

3757
02:20:52,710 --> 02:20:51,040
go out and buy one iphone 6s plus it's a

3758
02:20:55,510 --> 02:20:52,720
what they call a phablet because there's

3759
02:20:57,270 --> 02:20:55,520
a 5.5 inch screen the question is will

3760
02:20:59,750 --> 02:20:57,280
they be able to bring that technology

3761
02:21:01,670 --> 02:20:59,760
down to the smaller model

3762
02:21:02,710 --> 02:21:01,680
oh i'm not sure about that

3763
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:02,720
i'm going to have to look that up

3764
02:21:06,469 --> 02:21:04,319
because

3765
02:21:08,070 --> 02:21:06,479
i don't i don't know how the

3766
02:21:10,950 --> 02:21:08,080
the optical stabilization what they're

3767
02:21:13,349 --> 02:21:10,960
calling optical stabilization

3768
02:21:16,070 --> 02:21:13,359
can actually work because

3769
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:16,080
it requires that the you have an active

3770
02:21:20,150 --> 02:21:18,240
lens system so

3771
02:21:22,630 --> 02:21:20,160
maybe they do i do not know

3772
02:21:24,389 --> 02:21:22,640
i'm going to look at the specs right now

3773
02:21:27,030 --> 02:21:24,399
and i'll read it back to you as we

3774
02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:27,040
progress chris any more questions

3775
02:21:32,550 --> 02:21:28,960
yeah i've got several actually this

3776
02:21:34,870 --> 02:21:32,560
question comes from uh forum poster sand

3777
02:21:37,830 --> 02:21:34,880
who's been a poster since uh december

3778
02:21:39,270 --> 02:21:37,840
since christmas actually 2014.

3779
02:21:40,950 --> 02:21:39,280
and um

3780
02:21:42,389 --> 02:21:40,960
he says mark i really enjoyed the

3781
02:21:44,870 --> 02:21:42,399
lecture you gave in phoenix last

3782
02:21:45,830 --> 02:21:44,880
november awesome and he mentioned that

3783
02:21:47,510 --> 02:21:45,840
um

3784
02:21:50,070 --> 02:21:47,520
you have said that you think the object

3785
02:21:52,790 --> 02:21:50,080
in the 2013 aguadilla

3786
02:21:55,590 --> 02:21:52,800
uh puerto rico infrared video is a

3787
02:21:57,990 --> 02:21:55,600
balloon others have argued that when all

3788
02:22:00,469 --> 02:21:58,000
possible paths

3789
02:22:04,070 --> 02:22:00,479
are taken into account they would align

3790
02:22:08,309 --> 02:22:06,550
and if you consider those

3791
02:22:10,630 --> 02:22:08,319
at all possible distances from the

3792
02:22:13,030 --> 02:22:10,640
camera there is no possible path which

3793
02:22:15,429 --> 02:22:13,040
would not require the balloon to make

3794
02:22:17,190 --> 02:22:15,439
multiple turns and travel east northeast

3795
02:22:19,349 --> 02:22:17,200
uh against the wind

3796
02:22:21,670 --> 02:22:19,359
um how would you square the balloon idea

3797
02:22:23,910 --> 02:22:21,680
with those counter arguments

3798
02:22:25,830 --> 02:22:23,920
before he answers let me tell you in the

3799
02:22:29,110 --> 02:22:25,840
chat window i gave mark the

3800
02:22:31,510 --> 02:22:29,120
specification for the iphone 6s

3801
02:22:35,270 --> 02:22:31,520
and says quote optical image

3802
02:22:36,790 --> 02:22:35,280
stabilization iphone 6s plus only

3803
02:22:38,710 --> 02:22:36,800
so you can make it that what you will

3804
02:22:40,950 --> 02:22:38,720
you can answer the question now too

3805
02:22:42,070 --> 02:22:40,960
all right i will check that out um

3806
02:22:44,550 --> 02:22:42,080
the thing

3807
02:22:46,870 --> 02:22:44,560
with aguadilla okay

3808
02:22:49,190 --> 02:22:46,880
i i feel that

3809
02:22:50,389 --> 02:22:49,200
uh i was asked to be on that team and i

3810
02:22:52,630 --> 02:22:50,399
never got my

3811
02:22:55,190 --> 02:22:52,640
non-disclosure back in time so i didn't

3812
02:22:57,190 --> 02:22:55,200
make it onto the team and i i totally

3813
02:22:59,590 --> 02:22:57,200
respect and i appreciate everything that

3814
02:23:01,349 --> 02:22:59,600
you know rich hoffman robert powell and

3815
02:23:03,190 --> 02:23:01,359
the team did and and they're good

3816
02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:03,200
friends and and you know i'm certainly

3817
02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:04,960
you know not trying to

3818
02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:05,920
ever

3819
02:23:09,670 --> 02:23:07,600
um you know

3820
02:23:10,710 --> 02:23:09,680
degrade anything they did or denounce it

3821
02:23:14,230 --> 02:23:10,720
in any way

3822
02:23:17,270 --> 02:23:14,240
um my problem came with the fact that

3823
02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:17,280
i felt they should have used uh parallax

3824
02:23:20,389 --> 02:23:18,960
to determine the distance to the object

3825
02:23:21,510 --> 02:23:20,399
they didn't determine the distance to

3826
02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:21,520
the object

3827
02:23:26,150 --> 02:23:24,640
uh in a way that i think was accurate

3828
02:23:28,309 --> 02:23:26,160
they used the fact that they thought it

3829
02:23:30,150 --> 02:23:28,319
went behind an object

3830
02:23:31,990 --> 02:23:30,160
which i wasn't convinced of and that

3831
02:23:34,070 --> 02:23:32,000
they thought it went in the water which

3832
02:23:36,070 --> 02:23:34,080
i was even less convinced of

3833
02:23:38,389 --> 02:23:36,080
now i recon i recognize that it looks

3834
02:23:40,309 --> 02:23:38,399
like that aqua the object looks like it

3835
02:23:41,510 --> 02:23:40,319
passes into the water because it when it

3836
02:23:43,110 --> 02:23:41,520
gets down

3837
02:23:44,870 --> 02:23:43,120
uh you know to what they think is the

3838
02:23:47,190 --> 02:23:44,880
water you see all of a sudden the trail

3839
02:23:49,590 --> 02:23:47,200
behind it well i can create that trail

3840
02:23:51,429 --> 02:23:49,600
too because i have a i have an infrared

3841
02:23:54,150 --> 02:23:51,439
drone

3842
02:23:56,550 --> 02:23:54,160
with a fleur military grade camera on it

3843
02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:56,560
and i generated a video that shows the

3844
02:23:59,510 --> 02:23:58,240
very same trailing

3845
02:24:02,309 --> 02:23:59,520
that occurs

3846
02:24:03,910 --> 02:24:02,319
when the object moving has a similar

3847
02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:03,920
temperature because that's what infrared

3848
02:24:07,990 --> 02:24:04,800
sees

3849
02:24:09,830 --> 02:24:08,000
as the background and so

3850
02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:09,840
you see this trailing because the camera

3851
02:24:14,389 --> 02:24:11,200
doesn't know

3852
02:24:17,590 --> 02:24:14,399
what is the balloon say or what is the

3853
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water or what is like in my case my

3854
02:24:21,910 --> 02:24:19,920
truck versus my driveway you know the

3855
02:24:23,349 --> 02:24:21,920
tail end of my truck the temperatures

3856
02:24:25,910 --> 02:24:23,359
were close to being the same it looked

3857
02:24:27,910 --> 02:24:25,920
like my truck was trailing smoke

3858
02:24:30,950 --> 02:24:27,920
let's smoke this for a few moments and

3859
02:24:40,309 --> 02:24:30,960
we'll get back to that with mark antonio

3860
02:24:45,070 --> 02:24:43,830
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3897
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3898
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3899
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3900
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3901
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3905
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3906
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3909
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3910
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3911
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3912
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3913
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3914
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3919
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3921
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3922
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a warning to all household pests to all

3923
02:27:26,150 --> 02:27:24,080
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3924
02:27:27,910 --> 02:27:26,160
other pests if you've just made yourself

3925
02:27:29,590 --> 02:27:27,920
at home in someone else's home you'd

3926
02:27:31,590 --> 02:27:29,600
better hope the owners never hear about

3927
02:27:33,510 --> 02:27:31,600
terminix because terminix has the

3928
02:27:35,429 --> 02:27:33,520
know-how and the means to do whatever it

3929
02:27:37,830 --> 02:27:35,439
takes to remove you from that home

3930
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3931
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3932
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3933
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3934
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3935
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3936
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3937
02:27:55,910 --> 02:27:53,760
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3938
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with one call terminix will remove you

3939
02:27:59,030 --> 02:27:57,359
from the home you've invaded if you

3940
02:28:01,190 --> 02:27:59,040
think you can simply come back later

3941
02:28:03,990 --> 02:28:01,200
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3942
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3943
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3944
02:28:10,389 --> 02:28:08,319
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3945
02:28:13,110 --> 02:28:10,399
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3946
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3947
02:28:20,630 --> 02:28:18,950
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3948
02:28:22,950 --> 02:28:20,640
looking for that edge during those

3949
02:28:24,710 --> 02:28:22,960
intimate moments we see many ads for

3950
02:28:27,510 --> 02:28:24,720
enhancement but the side effects include

3951
02:28:29,429 --> 02:28:27,520
death at gcn team we should change the

3952
02:28:31,429 --> 02:28:29,439
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3953
02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:31,439
healthy libido pack the brain and heart

3954
02:28:35,750 --> 02:28:33,280
are not the only organs that require a

3955
02:28:37,710 --> 02:28:35,760
healthy vascular system for proper blood

3956
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:37,720
flow at the right moment go to

3957
02:28:54,630 --> 02:28:45,190
that's 877-878-4203

3958
02:28:59,670 --> 02:28:57,190
hey this is marie d jones the author of

3959
02:29:02,389 --> 02:28:59,680
this book is from the future

3960
02:29:13,590 --> 02:29:02,399
and you are listening to the paracast

3961
02:29:20,150 --> 02:29:16,550
marked antonio one more segment he's the

3962
02:29:23,030 --> 02:29:20,160
big guy for image analysis over mufon

3963
02:29:24,790 --> 02:29:23,040
and astronomer and he's telling us about

3964
02:29:27,270 --> 02:29:24,800
his work and his results with some

3965
02:29:29,030 --> 02:29:27,280
fascinating tales go on please mark yeah

3966
02:29:31,510 --> 02:29:29,040
it looks like you know i may have to get

3967
02:29:33,110 --> 02:29:31,520
an iphone 6s plus now so that i can

3968
02:29:34,469 --> 02:29:33,120
check out this image stabilization that

3969
02:29:36,630 --> 02:29:34,479
they claim is

3970
02:29:37,349 --> 02:29:36,640
optical i thought it would be digital

3971
02:29:38,790 --> 02:29:37,359
but

3972
02:29:40,870 --> 02:29:38,800
well they're coming out with a new model

3973
02:29:43,429 --> 02:29:40,880
in september like an iphone 7 with

3974
02:29:45,270 --> 02:29:43,439
probably a better camera so this point

3975
02:29:47,429 --> 02:29:45,280
being two months less than two months

3976
02:29:50,150 --> 02:29:47,439
shy of that you might as well

3977
02:29:53,190 --> 02:29:50,160
all right let's talk about october and

3978
02:29:55,030 --> 02:29:53,200
you're interested in assisting in the um

3979
02:29:57,270 --> 02:29:55,040
grand canyon uh little colorado

3980
02:29:58,630 --> 02:29:57,280
confluence project you would ask me

3981
02:30:01,429 --> 02:29:58,640
about aqua dia so i just wanted to

3982
02:30:03,670 --> 02:30:01,439
finish okay well okay so so you you

3983
02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:03,680
still have some reservations about it

3984
02:30:08,870 --> 02:30:06,160
i do because you know as the plane's

3985
02:30:11,429 --> 02:30:08,880
moving through the sky its path is is

3986
02:30:12,710 --> 02:30:11,439
specifically given in the

3987
02:30:13,990 --> 02:30:12,720
hud data

3988
02:30:16,150 --> 02:30:14,000
moment to moment as the plane goes

3989
02:30:18,550 --> 02:30:16,160
through the sky the object is visible

3990
02:30:19,830 --> 02:30:18,560
against different background objects

3991
02:30:21,510 --> 02:30:19,840
now

3992
02:30:23,190 --> 02:30:21,520
if we make the assumption and this is

3993
02:30:24,710 --> 02:30:23,200
you know what happens with parallax if

3994
02:30:26,550 --> 02:30:24,720
we make the assumption that the object

3995
02:30:27,510 --> 02:30:26,560
is moving far lower velocity than the

3996
02:30:29,110 --> 02:30:27,520
plane

3997
02:30:32,070 --> 02:30:29,120
which is likely

3998
02:30:34,070 --> 02:30:32,080
and simply because of the amount of

3999
02:30:35,349 --> 02:30:34,080
distance the plane covers versus where

4000
02:30:36,389 --> 02:30:35,359
the object appears against the

4001
02:30:38,950 --> 02:30:36,399
background

4002
02:30:40,630 --> 02:30:38,960
if you do that parallax calculation

4003
02:30:42,950 --> 02:30:40,640
it shows that the object is actually

4004
02:30:44,950 --> 02:30:42,960
moving in in a leisurely kind of a

4005
02:30:47,429 --> 02:30:44,960
straight line it's not doing a curved

4006
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:47,439
line that they their report shows i

4007
02:30:51,110 --> 02:30:49,600
think that curved line is an artifact of

4008
02:30:52,309 --> 02:30:51,120
the plane's path

4009
02:30:53,910 --> 02:30:52,319
being

4010
02:30:55,750 --> 02:30:53,920
mirrored into the

4011
02:30:56,950 --> 02:30:55,760
data now

4012
02:30:59,270 --> 02:30:56,960
i think that

4013
02:31:01,110 --> 02:30:59,280
moving forward i'm going to finish the

4014
02:31:03,110 --> 02:31:01,120
parallax study on this

4015
02:31:04,150 --> 02:31:03,120
and i'm going to try and show what i

4016
02:31:06,790 --> 02:31:04,160
believe

4017
02:31:10,630 --> 02:31:06,800
is the object is basically over the

4018
02:31:12,230 --> 02:31:10,640
runway of the airport and travels up

4019
02:31:14,550 --> 02:31:12,240
i can't remember if that's north west or

4020
02:31:17,190 --> 02:31:14,560
north and they say well you know there's

4021
02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:17,200
radar data and they may have radar data

4022
02:31:20,870 --> 02:31:18,880
but they said that they considered

4023
02:31:23,349 --> 02:31:20,880
parallax but then discarded it as a

4024
02:31:25,110 --> 02:31:23,359
possibility yet i think it's the only

4025
02:31:27,429 --> 02:31:25,120
possibility for finding the distance to

4026
02:31:29,349 --> 02:31:27,439
the object there is no other way

4027
02:31:30,630 --> 02:31:29,359
unless the object actually passes behind

4028
02:31:31,910 --> 02:31:30,640
an object and

4029
02:31:33,670 --> 02:31:31,920
there is no

4030
02:31:35,030 --> 02:31:33,680
in my view there's no

4031
02:31:37,349 --> 02:31:35,040
actual

4032
02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:37,359
object that this thing can say you

4033
02:31:41,349 --> 02:31:39,760
reliably pass behind or that it you know

4034
02:31:43,830 --> 02:31:41,359
i can't say that it went into the water

4035
02:31:45,349 --> 02:31:43,840
because you know it was almost at the at

4036
02:31:47,670 --> 02:31:45,359
the resolution

4037
02:31:49,110 --> 02:31:47,680
limit of that wescam system at the

4038
02:31:51,270 --> 02:31:49,120
distance where it appeared to go into

4039
02:31:54,469 --> 02:31:51,280
the water the object was tiny

4040
02:31:57,190 --> 02:31:54,479
and the trail falling behind it

4041
02:32:00,309 --> 02:31:57,200
looked exactly the same as the trail

4042
02:32:02,309 --> 02:32:00,319
that is behind my vehicle in the test

4043
02:32:04,070 --> 02:32:02,319
video i did using the drone

4044
02:32:07,270 --> 02:32:04,080
uh with the fleer military grade system

4045
02:32:09,990 --> 02:32:07,280
now wescam infrared systems and flir are

4046
02:32:11,910 --> 02:32:10,000
two different companies i grant you and

4047
02:32:14,230 --> 02:32:11,920
so that needs to be addressed of course

4048
02:32:16,070 --> 02:32:14,240
so we have to figure out if

4049
02:32:17,750 --> 02:32:16,080
there is anything

4050
02:32:19,110 --> 02:32:17,760
uh of merit there

4051
02:32:20,550 --> 02:32:19,120
as far as i'm concerned the jury's still

4052
02:32:23,510 --> 02:32:20,560
out i'm not making definitive

4053
02:32:25,110 --> 02:32:23,520
pronouncements about their research

4054
02:32:27,030 --> 02:32:25,120
because you know in the end who knows

4055
02:32:29,590 --> 02:32:27,040
they might be right but

4056
02:32:31,110 --> 02:32:29,600
i saw this object tumbling as well

4057
02:32:32,070 --> 02:32:31,120
they were you know when i talked to one

4058
02:32:34,950 --> 02:32:32,080
of the people on there and they said

4059
02:32:36,550 --> 02:32:34,960
well yes it appears to be tumbling

4060
02:32:38,389 --> 02:32:36,560
but the hot spot

4061
02:32:39,349 --> 02:32:38,399
stays in the same place so it's like the

4062
02:32:41,830 --> 02:32:39,359
exhaust

4063
02:32:44,389 --> 02:32:41,840
kind of migrates to a different place on

4064
02:32:46,790 --> 02:32:44,399
the body of the ship and it's like wow

4065
02:32:49,030 --> 02:32:46,800
that to me doesn't work i think that

4066
02:32:51,590 --> 02:32:49,040
this is a tumbling mylar balloon and

4067
02:32:53,830 --> 02:32:51,600
we're seeing the infrared reflection

4068
02:32:55,270 --> 02:32:53,840
because infrared is just light and we're

4069
02:32:57,670 --> 02:32:55,280
seeing the infrared reflection from the

4070
02:32:58,630 --> 02:32:57,680
ground bouncing off the balloon

4071
02:32:59,510 --> 02:32:58,640
so

4072
02:33:00,710 --> 02:32:59,520
um

4073
02:33:03,429 --> 02:33:00,720
you know again

4074
02:33:05,750 --> 02:33:03,439
here i come you know johnny come lately

4075
02:33:07,830 --> 02:33:05,760
and i realized that uh you know my

4076
02:33:10,630 --> 02:33:07,840
statements and all that stuff are on the

4077
02:33:11,590 --> 02:33:10,640
heels of their full-blown 180 page

4078
02:33:13,990 --> 02:33:11,600
research

4079
02:33:16,790 --> 02:33:14,000
you know that they did but i'm sticking

4080
02:33:17,910 --> 02:33:16,800
to it not because i'm being a stickler

4081
02:33:19,830 --> 02:33:17,920
but because i don't think it was

4082
02:33:21,910 --> 02:33:19,840
addressed you know if i can see it

4083
02:33:23,190 --> 02:33:21,920
successfully addressed even if i have to

4084
02:33:25,910 --> 02:33:23,200
do it i will

4085
02:33:28,309 --> 02:33:25,920
um and see that there is an answer there

4086
02:33:30,950 --> 02:33:28,319
that works okay then i'll be happy with

4087
02:33:32,389 --> 02:33:30,960
it and i'll accept their what they said

4088
02:33:34,230 --> 02:33:32,399
because you know i'm not they're not bad

4089
02:33:35,750 --> 02:33:34,240
researchers they're great researchers

4090
02:33:36,790 --> 02:33:35,760
but i think they miss something that's

4091
02:33:38,150 --> 02:33:36,800
all i'm saying

4092
02:33:40,389 --> 02:33:38,160
i'm going to ask you a silly couple of

4093
02:33:42,790 --> 02:33:40,399
silly questions here

4094
02:33:43,990 --> 02:33:42,800
as we wrap things up the first silly

4095
02:33:45,830 --> 02:33:44,000
question

4096
02:33:49,349 --> 02:33:45,840
takes us back to

4097
02:33:51,030 --> 02:33:49,359
the state of the ufo field and now we

4098
02:33:52,630 --> 02:33:51,040
may have a president of the united

4099
02:33:54,550 --> 02:33:52,640
states who's

4100
02:33:57,030 --> 02:33:54,560
like others promising to get to the

4101
02:33:58,710 --> 02:33:57,040
bottom of it they want your vote they

4102
02:34:01,830 --> 02:33:58,720
want your vote so you think hillary

4103
02:34:03,990 --> 02:34:01,840
clinton wants the ufo vote but what

4104
02:34:04,870 --> 02:34:04,000
about john podesta her close friend and

4105
02:34:07,190 --> 02:34:04,880
aide

4106
02:34:09,830 --> 02:34:07,200
who has been interested in ufos for over

4107
02:34:11,429 --> 02:34:09,840
20 years as long as we can determine he

4108
02:34:13,030 --> 02:34:11,439
isn't looking for votes for the people

4109
02:34:14,710 --> 02:34:13,040
he represents does he

4110
02:34:16,469 --> 02:34:14,720
no but you know what

4111
02:34:18,469 --> 02:34:16,479
it's politically expedient to say you're

4112
02:34:20,389 --> 02:34:18,479
gonna you know tell the truth when

4113
02:34:22,230 --> 02:34:20,399
you're desperate for votes because you

4114
02:34:24,950 --> 02:34:22,240
think you might actually lose

4115
02:34:26,630 --> 02:34:24,960
okay i think that you'll say anything

4116
02:34:29,030 --> 02:34:26,640
and all we have to do is look at our

4117
02:34:30,710 --> 02:34:29,040
history we've heard this before

4118
02:34:32,389 --> 02:34:30,720
we've heard this from other potential

4119
02:34:34,389 --> 02:34:32,399
presidents before

4120
02:34:37,030 --> 02:34:34,399
and we've never seen it it's never

4121
02:34:40,469 --> 02:34:37,040
happened and i think that's because if

4122
02:34:42,870 --> 02:34:40,479
there is a hidden secret which i think

4123
02:34:45,429 --> 02:34:42,880
is probably uh has an even chance of

4124
02:34:48,150 --> 02:34:45,439
being true i don't think that there's

4125
02:34:49,910 --> 02:34:48,160
any one country that has this secret

4126
02:34:53,190 --> 02:34:49,920
under wraps it doesn't belong to them it

4127
02:34:55,429 --> 02:34:53,200
belongs to the visiting civilization

4128
02:34:57,990 --> 02:34:55,439
and i think that uh

4129
02:34:59,990 --> 02:34:58,000
that anybody who says they're gonna

4130
02:35:01,110 --> 02:35:00,000
release the secrecy files whatever they

4131
02:35:03,349 --> 02:35:01,120
may be

4132
02:35:05,270 --> 02:35:03,359
i just don't buy it because i've never

4133
02:35:07,590 --> 02:35:05,280
seen it and i've heard the promises all

4134
02:35:09,030 --> 02:35:07,600
before so they're basically whistling in

4135
02:35:11,429 --> 02:35:09,040
the dark when they say this they're just

4136
02:35:13,990 --> 02:35:11,439
looking for the ufo lobby i think that

4137
02:35:15,190 --> 02:35:14,000
that's part of it you know i actually i

4138
02:35:17,429 --> 02:35:15,200
think it's probably a sign of

4139
02:35:19,830 --> 02:35:17,439
desperation saying that we even have to

4140
02:35:21,510 --> 02:35:19,840
go after these guys you know well you're

4141
02:35:24,469 --> 02:35:21,520
dealing in an era here where we have a

4142
02:35:25,590 --> 02:35:24,479
close election that a few events one way

4143
02:35:30,710 --> 02:35:25,600
or the other

4144
02:35:33,590 --> 02:35:30,720
by fractions and fractions of a point

4145
02:35:36,389 --> 02:35:33,600
can change the outcome so everybody's

4146
02:35:38,070 --> 02:35:36,399
got to be desperate for votes yeah

4147
02:35:40,230 --> 02:35:38,080
yeah and i'm not saying that's what's

4148
02:35:42,389 --> 02:35:40,240
happening you know i i don't think that

4149
02:35:43,429 --> 02:35:42,399
a guy like donald trump will turn around

4150
02:35:45,349 --> 02:35:43,439
and

4151
02:35:47,190 --> 02:35:45,359
you know release information like that

4152
02:35:49,590 --> 02:35:47,200
he'd probably say i want to have a

4153
02:35:52,070 --> 02:35:49,600
dialogue with the aliens i would like to

4154
02:35:54,870 --> 02:35:52,080
give them a deal such a deal maybe

4155
02:35:56,230 --> 02:35:54,880
that's where he'll go a huge deal yeah

4156
02:35:57,510 --> 02:35:56,240
huge it's

4157
02:35:59,830 --> 02:35:57,520
it's going to be great it's going to be

4158
02:36:01,510 --> 02:35:59,840
great what surprises me though is that

4159
02:36:04,150 --> 02:36:01,520
he is not tweeting

4160
02:36:05,590 --> 02:36:04,160
in response to clinton saying this

4161
02:36:08,630 --> 02:36:05,600
just yeah you know what

4162
02:36:10,870 --> 02:36:08,640
moment moment just a momentary sidetrack

4163
02:36:13,349 --> 02:36:10,880
he's still too stuck on ted cruz and

4164
02:36:15,190 --> 02:36:13,359
he's going down that path of still he's

4165
02:36:16,710 --> 02:36:15,200
laboring over all the stuff that was

4166
02:36:18,389 --> 02:36:16,720
going on with ted cruz he really should

4167
02:36:20,230 --> 02:36:18,399
be talking about his opponent and he

4168
02:36:22,469 --> 02:36:20,240
should be you know if he's got a problem

4169
02:36:24,150 --> 02:36:22,479
with her he needs to state it and not

4170
02:36:25,990 --> 02:36:24,160
go after someone who's not actually a

4171
02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:26,000
nominee you know he's not in the race

4172
02:36:30,389 --> 02:36:28,000
he's not important to the race at this

4173
02:36:32,630 --> 02:36:30,399
point so i don't think that makes sense

4174
02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:32,640
so you know i think they're honestly

4175
02:36:35,190 --> 02:36:34,000
they're both whistling in the dark if

4176
02:36:36,790 --> 02:36:35,200
they expect to be president of the

4177
02:36:38,950 --> 02:36:36,800
united states you know if there was an

4178
02:36:40,309 --> 02:36:38,960
empty orange juice can i'd vote for it

4179
02:36:41,670 --> 02:36:40,319
because that orange juice can would

4180
02:36:44,070 --> 02:36:41,680
probably have a greater intellectual

4181
02:36:46,870 --> 02:36:44,080
capacity than either of them

4182
02:36:48,469 --> 02:36:46,880
oh boy we're talking about politically

4183
02:36:50,070 --> 02:36:48,479
incorrect folks

4184
02:36:53,030 --> 02:36:50,080
that's okay you're in the right show

4185
02:36:56,550 --> 02:36:53,040
here they scream at us because we're

4186
02:36:57,990 --> 02:36:56,560
being political oh well that's too bad

4187
02:36:59,510 --> 02:36:58,000
marked antonio can you tell our

4188
02:37:01,510 --> 02:36:59,520
listeners where they can check out more

4189
02:37:04,150 --> 02:37:01,520
of the stuff that you do yeah well my

4190
02:37:05,510 --> 02:37:04,160
website's at fxmodels.com

4191
02:37:07,429 --> 02:37:05,520
and that's just the model work and

4192
02:37:08,710 --> 02:37:07,439
visual effects stuff

4193
02:37:12,309 --> 02:37:08,720
but

4194
02:37:14,309 --> 02:37:12,319
you can also find me at mufon.com

4195
02:37:16,870 --> 02:37:14,319
and if you have photos or videos you'd

4196
02:37:19,349 --> 02:37:16,880
like to look at you can certainly

4197
02:37:21,590 --> 02:37:19,359
go through and talk to the headquarters

4198
02:37:23,349 --> 02:37:21,600
folks i work for the headquarters so you

4199
02:37:24,790 --> 02:37:23,359
can actually have them

4200
02:37:26,309 --> 02:37:24,800
send your email to me or send your

4201
02:37:27,270 --> 02:37:26,319
request to me and i'll respond directly

4202
02:37:29,030 --> 02:37:27,280
back to you and we'll start a

4203
02:37:30,550 --> 02:37:29,040
conversation that way

4204
02:37:32,550 --> 02:37:30,560
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4205
02:37:34,469 --> 02:37:32,560
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02:37:36,070 --> 02:37:34,479
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4208
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4209
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4210
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:42,319
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4211
02:37:46,389 --> 02:37:44,560
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02:37:48,230 --> 02:37:46,399
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02:37:53,349 --> 02:37:51,359
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4217
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4218
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4219
02:38:02,309 --> 02:37:59,520
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